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Don't know - distracted by papyrus font

But at least it's not comic sans.
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Its God NOT god smart one

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nichoolasamckinneyr says2014-04-23T11:22:52.5296481-05:00
I dont think he is real i mean has he actually talked has any one seen him how do we know the holy father exists
zombie-killer says2014-04-23T11:35:16.2964314-05:00
You are some what right but if he is dead then why are his angles still hear
discomfiting says2014-04-23T11:36:48.8200468-05:00
We don't' know and the only way we probably will know is when we each die.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-23T11:38:04.4176468-05:00
IF we each die, we don't know if science can one day provide immortality.
nichoolasamckinneyr says2014-04-23T11:38:34.2860481-05:00
It is not a fact that god is real just because a book says so
nichoolasamckinneyr says2014-04-23T11:38:59.7452481-05:00
A boring book at that
Cat_Lover says2014-04-23T11:39:07.9820481-05:00
Yes, actually it is.
zombie-killer says2014-04-23T11:39:14.2064481-05:00
I know five hundred people that will disagre
SebUK says2014-04-23T11:39:27.6380481-05:00
The Big Bang is evidence for God , something doesn't happen for no reason before the Big Bang there was nothing and than there was everything this violates many rules the most important being the rule of cause and effect , Whatever begins to exist requires a cause The universe began to exist Therefore, the universe requires a cause . “Whatever begins to exist requires a cause” If the atheist denies this premise, then they are denying a fundamental law of natural science, namely, that matter can neither be created or destroyed. That is natural law.Quantum mechanics is not going to save the atheist here. In QM, virtual particles come into being in a vacuum. The vacuum is sparked by a scientist.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-23T11:40:13.8976468-05:00
Not a boring book, its a fact, the Bible is one of the most exiting books on earth if you would actually read it.
zombie-killer says2014-04-23T11:41:49.2604468-05:00
I sleep with the bible in my hands
nichoolasamckinneyr says2014-04-23T11:42:17.6000481-05:00
That sounds stalkerish
zombie-killer says2014-04-23T11:43:06.4804468-05:00
Says the one that dosent care
Cat_Lover says2014-04-23T11:44:28.6088481-05:00
What? The fact that I know that you haven't read the whole Bible? Its obvious! Atheists agree that the Bible is exiting because of the wars portrayed in it!
discomfiting says2014-04-23T11:44:49.1284468-05:00
@seb then who created god? There's the same problem everywhere you look for the answers of the origin of life. God can't just exist, something must've created him in order for it to exist; but then what created who created god? There's a problem in creationism and science both try to explain it but neither have proved it. There are so many flaws in creationism such as the omnipotence paradox and there's flaws in the big bang such as not knowing what caused the big bang. You can't just say god created himself because that's as illogical as saying the big bang created itself. As people, we're probably too stupid to understand how it could it happen; either something can be created without a creator or we're simply too stupid to understand how it all works yet.
zombie-killer says2014-04-23T11:50:27.2372481-05:00
We are to supid to know yet
SebUK says2014-04-23T11:55:57.4499699-05:00
@discomfiting hah that is not the same since God doesn't have a beginning rather than saying everything has a cause I would prefer to say everything that has a beginning has a cause the universe clearly had a beginning and therefore is finate therefore needs a cause God is infinate and lives in a spirtual setting . Infinate things do not need a cause because they did not start,
Cat_Lover says2014-04-23T12:04:48.2869082-05:00
@discomfiting. If the universe created you, who created the universe?
Cat_Lover says2014-04-23T12:05:39.9620481-05:00
The universe can't just exist, something must've created it in order for it to exist.
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-23T12:05:50.7260481-05:00
The question shouldn't be who, but how.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-23T12:06:32.1367739-05:00
Explain it to me then
discomfiting says2014-04-23T12:08:54.2756481-05:00
@cat_lover did you even read what i stated?
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-23T12:09:44.4764481-05:00
Cat, we don't know. That is why we are trying to find out. We should answer this question until we have the evidence to find one.
RossM says2014-04-23T12:10:11.7078930-05:00
Then who created He who created the universe? If God is omnipotent, could he set himself limits? The Bible is full of logical fallacies. It isn't hate, it's just fact...
SebUK says2014-04-23T12:11:56.5398930-05:00
RossM I proved that a deistic God exists in the comment section already , we are talking about A god not A Religious God but A God
RossM says2014-04-23T12:21:51.5552266-05:00
You did not prove that any God exists whatsoever! The very scientific fallacies which you are claiming are relevant to God as well!
discomfiting says2014-04-23T12:26:57.9920481-05:00
If you proved god; if anybody has proved god existed, theism wouldn't even be debatable.
SebUK says2014-04-23T12:27:58.3640481-05:00
''You did not prove that any God exists whatsoever! '' I proved that the universe needs a cause that exists outside of space ''the very scientific fallacies which you are claiming are relevant to God as well!'' Lol you are making a claim based on no evidence you claim that there were scientific fallacies in my writing but you haven't showed which or what was a scinetific fallacy in my writing.
SebUK says2014-04-23T12:28:47.5040481-05:00
Discomfiting funny how you cant counter my arguments
discomfiting says2014-04-23T12:29:55.0166161-05:00
Can God create a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?
RossM says2014-04-23T12:30:47.7758161-05:00
You misunderstand. For one, your grammar is awful, which makes it difficult to understand what you are saying. The fallacy is your claim that something cannot be made from nothing, but you still promote the idea of God, which is conforming to the same idea.
RossM says2014-04-23T12:31:43.9868481-05:00
You did not prove that the cause must exist outside of space. Your own subjective opinions are clouding your judgement...
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-23T13:00:28.2548481-05:00
I view it best to be agnostic until it can be proven.
discomfiting says2014-04-23T13:05:28.9288623-05:00
^ exactly otter.
SebUK says2014-04-23T14:19:21.3559792-05:00
''but you still promote the idea of God, which is conforming to the same idea.'' God doesn't have a beginning therefore he doesn't have a cause and he doesn't need it on the other hand the universe is finate and therefore needs a beginning '' Can God create a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?''If God cannot create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it, then God is not omnipotent. According to this argument, omnipotence is self-contradictory. Therefore, God cannot be omnipotent. So, the question, could God create a rock so heavy He could not lift it? The quick answer is "No." But the explanation is far more important to understand than the answer... This question is based on a popular misunderstanding about the definitions of words like "almighty" or "omnipotent." These terms do not mean that God can do anything. Rather, they describe the amount of God's power. Power is the ability to effect change - to make something happen. God (being unlimited) has unlimited power . Therefore, God can do whatever is possible to be done. God cannot, however, do that which is actually impossible. This is because true impossibility is not based on the amount of power one has, it is based on what is really possible. The truly impossible is not made possible by adding more power. ''You did not prove that the cause must exist outside of space. '' Whatever causes the universe to appear is not inside of space, because there was no space causally prior to the creation event. The cause must therefore be non-physical, because physical things exist in space. Whatever causes the universe to appear is not bound by time (temporal). It never began to exist. There was no passage of time causally prior to the big bang, so the cause of the universe did not come into being. The cause existed eternally. And the cause is not material. All the matter in the universe came into being at the first moment. Whatever caused the universe to begin to exist cannot have been matter, because there was no matter causally prior to the big bang.
SebUK says2014-04-23T14:21:18.8443925-05:00
In more depth : God by definition is the uncreated creator of the universe, so the question Who created God? Is illogical, just like To whom is the bachelor married? So a more sophisticated questioner might ask: If the universe needs a cause, then why doesn't God need a cause? And if God doesn't need a cause, why should the universe need a cause? In reply, Christians should use the following reasoning: Everything which has a beginning has a cause. The universe has a beginning. Therefore the universe has a cause. Its important to stress the words in bold type. The universe requires a cause because it had a beginning, as will be shown below. God, unlike the universe, had no beginning, so doesn't need a cause. In addition, Einstein's general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space. Since God, by definition, is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created,
RossM says2014-04-23T15:08:20.3145411-05:00
Nothing can bring itself into existence. There is a reason why God is considered to be beyond logic. You cannot prove it, so don't be so damned arrogant to say you already have...
SebUK says2014-04-23T16:02:16.3317411-05:00
Is that really your argument?
guntherstauffenberg says2014-04-23T21:34:05.3432635-05:00
Sounds like it's time for the "brain in the vat" theory
JCNSW21 says2014-04-23T22:41:41.3013411-05:00
@zombie-killer he isn't dead and @nichoolsammckinneyr its about trust we see him in everything that he created.
Your_Logical_Fallacy says2014-04-25T08:34:09.7885796-05:00
God is more complex, he goes beyond our understand of time and other things, thats why nothing created him he created himself.
Your_Logical_Fallacy says2014-04-25T08:37:17.8009131-05:00
RossM you are the arrogant one if you are risking eternity in hell because you're to stubborn to believe in god (I understand you don't believe in hell i'm just stating you are risking it)
RossM says2014-04-25T10:52:25.1365131-05:00
You say as you assume that my beliefs are somehow lesser than yours. Please, increase the amount of hypocrisy you put into your arguments.
NathanaelPierre14 says2014-04-26T18:06:54.6786362-05:00
Christianity is heavily reliant on faith. If you want to see God to believe him that is blind faith and its not worth believing on God if you are this way.
Migrating_Hacker says2014-05-09T16:28:17.7878778-05:00
How was life form from rocks and space dust with gases

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