Is it hypocritical for a Christian business owner to deny gay people, but not adulterers, divorcees and non-Christians?

Posted by: briantheliberal

Apparently a lot of conservatives believe "religious freedom" is a valid excuse to deny products and services to gay citizens (who's tax money helps to build their businesses), yet the same people refusing gays wouldn't dare refuse anyone else who violates their religious beliefs. Is this biased discrimination?

  • Yes, it is hypocritical.

  • No, it's not hypocritical.

79% 22 votes
21% 6 votes
  • And illegal constitutionally.

  • Hypocritical and discriminating, yes. I don't know about unconstitutional though, since I'm not American.

  • All are equally sinful by Christian standards.

  • They think being gay is a choice and would probably be fine with it if the gays would hide their identity and say it's a sin and they need to stop doing it. Whether someone's behaviour is actually harmful does not really seem to matter to them, it's all about attitude.

    Posted by: MrFox
  • It is kinda hippocritical, but they should have a right to deny all those people and more.

    Posted by: Wylted
  • Illegal, unjust, and utterly hypocritical

  • They are ignoring the rest of their precious book's rules while they are so focused on that one because they think it's icky or something, I don't know. But is it pretty hypocritical.

  • Wow. If someone walks into a cake shop with the intention of using said cake at a gay wedding, the person can straight out refuse? How stupid is that? The bible said you should STONE the gays, not refuse to give them cake. Religion should either be followed to the book or not followed at all, which is why religion shouldn't exist. It isn't freedom of religion, it's discrimination, the matter should be taken to court and the employee either fired or obliged to give an apology.

    Posted by: wilpin
  • Absolutely. It's discrimination based on religious belief. Christians who do these things clearly miss the New Testament's message of love your neighbor.

  • It's not about the person. It's about the intention. If a Gay person walked into a cake shop and asked for a cake: Sure thing. If a Gay person walking into a cake shop and asked for a cake intended to be used at a gay wedding: Sorry. It's not discrimination, it's freedom of religion.

  • An adulterous person isn't going to go Into a bakery and ask them to bake a cheating cake, same with divorced people.

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briantheliberal says2015-04-03T01:48:40.1074640-05:00
Example of this, a Christian florists says she is will deny services to gay people, but is perfectly okay with serving adulterers because according to her it's "a different kind of sin". This is proof alone that these "religious freedom" laws are merely an excuse to justify discrimination against gay people, while hiding their bigotry behind their religion.
briantheliberal says2015-04-03T01:48:48.0958689-05:00
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/04/02/christian-florist-says-shed-deny-service-to-gay-people-but-not-adulterers-because-its-a-different-kind-of-sin/#ixzz3WCH6Rcmg
retrogamer176 says2015-04-03T01:52:34.7615266-05:00
Hmm.... Is it illegal in 45 states... No... Federally... No... Oh yeah, CONSTITUTIONALLY!!! Seriously, 1st and 14th amendment.
briantheliberal says2015-04-03T01:55:38.0581874-05:00
Conservatives claim to "uphold" and "defend" the Constitution but virtually ignore parts that aren't convenient for them. So much for freedom lol.
retrogamer176 says2015-04-03T01:55:47.4190566-05:00
@DC 1st amendment: You cannot establish a religion. 14th: Equal protection under the law.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-04-03T03:42:27.0654088-05:00
@retrogamer: I know this is a hotly debated topic among DDO members - I recalled reading from one member that the US constitution doesn't say the government has to be secular - so until I actually read about American politics, I'll probably remain neutral about the matter... @brian: Are you the Brian in the link?
briantheliberal says2015-04-03T03:51:37.9855118-05:00
DC, no that's not me. They were referring to someone else with the same name.
briantheliberal says2015-04-03T03:55:56.2867479-05:00
It's weird though, because the story does take place in the state I live. - http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/04/01/ac-pkg-tuchman-georgia-florists-religious-freedom-bill.cnn
Wylted says2015-04-03T07:21:18.9129296-05:00
You mention their tax money helps to build those businesses, but I am against corporate welfare as well. Any company HEAVILY subsidized by the government should not be allowed to discriminate in such a way. Typically the places who are vendors to gay Weddings are not going to be those heavily subsidized companies.
TheChristian says2015-04-03T07:38:45.2851144-05:00
Oh and Add fornication. Big sin mentioned 60 times in the bible.
Wylted says2015-04-03T07:49:55.2653248-05:00
Fornication is not a sin, stop being silly. God commands the Jews to "be fruitful and multiply".
Tonius5 says2015-04-03T09:31:05.9864691-05:00
How can a Christian business know who the adulterers or divorcees are? They don't shove that information down our throats. Asking for a gay wedding cake does give the business information and they're free to refuse to participate in the immoral act. If it was not for a homosexual wedding, then there is no issue. I don't know why Liberals can't hammer that into their thick skulls.
retrogamer176 says2015-04-03T14:00:32.8808353-05:00
@tonius5 I don't know why it's so hard to understand that THEY CANNOT DO THAT!!! It's equal protection under the law! The fricken 14th amendment!
briantheliberal says2015-04-03T14:44:58.5910333-05:00
Tonius5, your excuses are not fooling anyone. If someone asks for a wedding cake or flowers for their second or third wedding, they are an adulterer. Just because the fact is not obvious, doesn't mean the owners of the businesses I stated are not allowed to ASK their customers to ensure themselves that they are not participating in a sinful act. If you want to discriminate on basis of "religious freedom" you have to discriminate against EVERYONE who doesn't follow your religious beliefs. You can't just pick and choose what parts of the Bible you want to follow and use "religious freedom" as an excuse. That makes you a bigot. I don't know why conservatives can't hammer that into their thick skulls.
briantheliberal says2015-04-03T14:46:35.8394123-05:00
Wylted, fornication is a sin. The "be fruitful and multiply" verse refers to husband and wife.
Wylted says2015-04-04T08:07:54.8225612-05:00
Fornication can happen between a husband and a wife
briantheliberal says2015-04-04T20:22:39.3185651-05:00
But vaginal sex between husband and wife that results in procreation is not considered fornication.

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