Is it true that white males are the most discriminated against group in America?

Posted by: oryxcrake

Most people refuse to recognize the implicit discrimination that is engendered against white males today with institutions such as feminism and movements like #blacklivesmatter. I am curious to see how many others on this website feel the same as I do.

  • Yes, I recognize this.

  • No, I am unable to recognize this.

41% 15 votes
59% 22 votes
  • Only because they also choose to discriminate against themselves ... as well as getting it from other races. At the very least, most people of a race group together against the other. Whites are indiscriminately discriminating ... which consequently nails them as well.

  • People seem to forget that political correctness only favours non-whites. Saying "cracker" is allowed, but any racist term for any other race is not. There's lots more, but I don't want to get into it.

  • I think affirmative action is unconstitutional and now there's reverse discrimination. I see it all the time. (Also, this poll is biased)

    Posted by: Itani
  • Affirmative action... Makes it so a none talented Hispanic can get into a college before a talented white male. White males have it the hardest to get a job or into college as just because of all this complaining about racism that colleges and jobs through talent in the trash and hire people Accoridng to race and gender.

  • Awww here we go again everyone cry for the white guys They control most of the government, most of the corporations, and have literally all the rights they could possible have, they are paid more, no one harasses them, they don't suffer as much police, brutality or institutional discrimination…. I can't even believe how many people think that white guys are discriminate against its ridiculous.

    Posted by: Stefy
  • Everyone has bias against people who they think is part of another group than themselves. Minorities have been trying to correct this, first by correcting the false image that was presented of them. They also want to be treated fairly. If you think that means discriminating against white males, you don't understand it.

    Posted by: MrFox
  • No, it's just that they're being discriminated against as much as pretty much any other human alive. Actually, still a bit luckier than some.

  • I can see that white males have their stereotypes, but are they the MOST discriminated-against group? No. The only reason people are against feminism is because they learn about it from a patriarchal point of view. And black likes DO matter. I don't remember white males ever being forced into slavery, do you?

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PetersSmith says2015-03-31T18:42:46.7322288-05:00
Wow
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T18:51:02.0017326-05:00
These polls have a massive bias lately. I don't much care for it.
triangle.128k says2015-03-31T18:53:21.9739231-05:00
Bias.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T19:00:30.1600109-05:00
It is very difficult to gage who is discriminated against more because everybody is discriminated against on some level. They are just discriminated against very differently. It is an issue of apples and oranges.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-03-31T19:38:14.9701745-05:00
@TheMarquis You seem to have said it better. A very different type of discrimination. Perhaps not a more or less thing.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-03-31T19:52:06.2055175-05:00
Well even apples and oranges can be compared. They both are fruit, and they both share a large proportion of their dna (so does all living things). And there has even been studies comparing apples with oranges. Http://www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/pmc/articles/PMC27565/
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T19:55:56.4648422-05:00
@Mathgeekjoe Semantics, but I see what you mean. There are clear indicators in countries like Saudi Arabia, but in other countries the two genders are extremely close and suffer very different problems.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:01:06.0731832-05:00
@FreedomBeforeEquality, would you like to have a formal debate on this topic? I would ask the one who started this poll but I get the feeling that he wouldn't be exceptionally fun to debate from how he set the poll up. I'll even let you start it so that you can set the premises so I don't burn down a straw man and then think that I won.
PunkGirlBlack says2015-03-31T20:08:33.1632501-05:00
I don't really know how to feel about this even though I accidentally voted on it (I was going to vote on it but then I rethought the question and instead of backing out of the "would you like to add reasoning to your opinion" section I accidentally pressed "just submit vote"). I personally don't hear much about a discrimination against white males, but I know it's not a non existent thing that the media chooses not to focus on. Everyone and everything is discriminated against to a certain extent, rather then posting a poll to determine who's the king of discrimination I think we should acknowledge that discrimination exists and try to eliminate it as far as we can.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:12:01.5119938-05:00
@PunkGirlBlack: The media doesn't ignore discrimination against men. It is just that they don't recognize it.
PunkGirlBlack says2015-03-31T20:17:00.6351579-05:00
@TheMarquis They don't recognize discrimination against white males, but they will recognize black male discrimination.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:22:14.1335093-05:00
@PunkGirlBlack The discrimination against males in our culture is so deeply ingrained that it is difficult to notice. I don't like "white males" as a term because those are two separate demographics. Both are also extremely broad terms. There are wealthy white men and white women making just enough for the next gram of meth. There are also violent white men and highly educated and thoughtful black men. But I don't see a lot of hatred in America towards people for being white, apart from white privilege or white guilt(which I understand to be the assumption that they should be apologizing for past actions committed by other white men and be sorry for the things that are easier on them.) A lot of modern feminists are always going on about "cist white males," but they aren't a majority in the country. If somebody would like to provide me with evidence, I'd love to learn something.
TBR says2015-03-31T20:23:40.5903272-05:00
"which I understand to be the assumption that they should be apologizing for past actions committed by other white men and be sorry for the things that are easier on them." this is garbage. This is NOT whats at issue.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:25:40.2020967-05:00
@TBR, I know that white privilage is just an explanation of all the things that are easier for a white male. I was referring more to that old, "White Man's Guilt." But if that is what you took offence too, then please educate me.
PunkGirlBlack says2015-03-31T20:40:21.8871929-05:00
@TheMarquis what is the point you are trying to make? Because it seems to me that you are straying from the topic.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:44:34.6195527-05:00
@PunkGirlBlack I am very much on topic. I am saying that men are discriminated against in a lot of ways. Whites don't face as many issues that I am aware of. So the cross section seems a bit unnecessary to me.
PunkGirlBlack says2015-03-31T20:45:42.4786827-05:00
Which is what I said, so why need for the debate? I'm sorry if this comes off a little rude, I don't intend it to.
briantheliberal says2015-03-31T20:46:04.1156053-05:00
Notice how every person here who vote 'yes' are the same white conservative males who deny racism, homophobia, and support discrimination against homosexuals and racial profiling. All of them are pathetic honestly.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:47:11.5379409-05:00
@PunkGIrlBlack Your point wasn't very clear.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:53:18.6719430-05:00
@briantheliberal I also noticed a conservative ideology across the board, but they aren't pathetic. They just cannot escape their own perspective.
PunkGirlBlack says2015-03-31T20:53:53.0748254-05:00
@TheMarquis it was very clear. I stated that "I don't hear of it much, but I know that it's not a non existent thing." There for, working around the double negative, it says "I know it exists."
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:54:51.0144501-05:00
That isn't what I meant. I meant the bit about the media. I fully undestood what you were saying earlier. I thought you were making one of those arguments about the media not caring about white kids killed by cops.
briantheliberal says2015-03-31T20:55:51.6332661-05:00
It's not that they can't, they just choose not to. They prefer to be willfully ignorant of the world around then while they wallow in their privilege. This is exactly why I created a forum post about this and got attacked by the very people who voted yes on this poll.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T20:57:04.9387331-05:00
@BrianTheLibral I don't completely see it as ignorance. I see it as more of a deep lack of empathy.
TBR says2015-03-31T20:58:11.5030797-05:00
I wake every morning dreading my white skin. The pressure from society. This penis... Well that's just MORE trouble. Damn you society. PLEASE STOP PICKING ON ME!
briantheliberal says2015-03-31T20:58:18.2733929-05:00
That too. You are right about that.
PunkGirlBlack says2015-03-31T20:58:24.4197141-05:00
@TheMarquis no, I mean that the media doesn't focus much on white discrimination in general (or atleast It's never made it as big as a trial about "black discrimination"). A cop shooting a white kid isn't racism unless the kid was only shot because he was white. A cop shooting a black man isn't discrimination unless the cop only shot the man because he was black. Yes, racism does exist, but not every case of shootings is racism.
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T21:02:14.5888908-05:00
@PunkGirlBlack I don't completely agree with that last bit. Racism isn't always concious, and I think the subconscious racism causes more death. Blacks are viewed as being more intimidating and aggressive. People have those thoughts and don't realize it.
Renegader says2015-03-31T21:07:01.9430791-05:00
While it is not true that white males are near the MOST institutionally discriminated against, there does seem to be a lot of undeserved and prominent hatred for them that creates a huge double standard. They are often blamed for historical events that they are not responsible for. In the way that the system works, white males are not oftenly discriminated against (with the exception being poor whites attempting to apply for college), but in the media, they are painted as monsters, and receive no credit for leading the advancement of positive things such as science and democracy. This is why I am not voting.
briantheliberal says2015-03-31T21:20:56.1800732-05:00
Why do white guys always refer to Affirmative Action to cry about how oppressed they are?
TheMarquis says2015-03-31T21:22:49.8399883-05:00
@Briantheliberal It appears that it is all they have to complain about.
Renegader says2015-03-31T21:26:04.0637705-05:00
Twist my words more bro. I thought my statement was pretty fair.
briantheliberal says2015-03-31T21:27:56.0544428-05:00
TheMarquis, apparently so. "All the unqualified minorities are taking my job and making me feel less powerful!! Wah wah!!" LOL
briantheliberal says2015-03-31T21:29:38.5156721-05:00
Renegader, I hope you're not talking to me because I was referring to Futurepresident2048.
propinquity says2015-03-31T22:04:02.5767898-05:00
I don't see bias against white males in the media as a common trend. Only in racially charged cases, and even in these cases, there has been just as much backlash in the media against cases such as Ferguson as there has been support. Additionally, affirmative action applies just as much to Asian students as it does to white males, so this is hardly evidence of exclusive white male discrimination.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-04-01T06:08:20.1614758-05:00
Yeah its funny right Briantheliberal? Even in a completely different scenario and different side ... You still think they're all bigots. Sounds like there is no winning with you. Recognizing discrimination or not ... You will be labeled a bigot by this guy if its not him that you care about.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-04-01T06:09:50.4319240-05:00
And everyone went the race way ... How about the male portion? How about how females are given preferential treatment in the college system.
Wylted says2015-04-01T06:35:54.7283974-05:00
BTL, if your life sucks do something about it instead of blaming the white homeless guy for his privilege. The white homeless guy is probably blaming blacks for his position to because they stole his job.
TheHappyReaper says2015-04-01T10:38:19.7976873-05:00
If everyone was blind, deaf, speechless, and with out a sense of touch, we wouldn't have racism. But then, people would be rocks.
TheMarquis says2015-04-01T12:12:04.3034391-05:00
@FreedomBeforeEquality I did mention that males were discriminated against in ways that people don't notice.
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T13:03:24.0024935-05:00
Hey Brian, literally all I have to say is "no u." You're blind of your own privilege, you won't open your eyes to anything other than "blame whitey," and you feel the need to play the victim because you aren't responsible for your own actions and you want to blame someone else for your shortcomings. Notice more people provided a reason for voting yes than the people who voted no, and one of the "no" votes was Stefy whining about her fairy tale world that involves white privilege. You prefer to be willfully ignorant of the world around you. Only someone as radical as you would say an unqualified person getting a job over a qualified person is not a bad thing. I can't believe you're serious.
TBR says2015-04-01T13:07:20.1834655-05:00
@Mister_Man "Only someone as radical as you would say an unqualified person getting a job over a qualified person is not a bad thing." Just wow. Way to misrepresent what was said.
TheMarquis says2015-04-01T13:10:27.6930615-05:00
An unqualified person not getting a job over a qualified person is a bad thing.
TBR says2015-04-01T13:13:06.6693853-05:00
@TheMarquis - If you are talking about affirmative action, that characterization is a misnomer.
TheMarquis says2015-04-01T13:43:00.5384247-05:00
@TBR: I wasn't talking about affirmative action. I don't really have any strong opinions on it. I was thinking in the context of jobs. I have a lot of restaurant certifications and can still barely get into the McDonald's. Black kids aren't replacing me. In fact they have a harder time finding jobs. My first name being so odd probably makes people think I'm something ethnic, actually, which tears away at some of the white privilege that I would have.
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T14:11:31.4514872-05:00
"All the unqualified minorities are taking my job and making me feel less powerful!! Wah wah!" - BrianTheLiberal - That kinda sounds like exactly what was meant.
TBR says2015-04-01T14:15:00.5150093-05:00
Be honest. Really, do you not understand what he was saying? Reread the comment you have quoted. Read it again if necessary. I don't believe you are missing the point, I think you are willfully pretending to miss the point.
TBR says2015-04-01T14:16:41.4904411-05:00
BrianTheLiberal - "All the unqualified minorities are taking my job and making me feel less powerful!! Wah wah!" Mister_Man "Only someone as radical as you would say an unqualified person getting a job over a qualified person is not a bad thing." So you stand behind what you said?
TheMarquis says2015-04-01T15:29:32.4004767-05:00
@MisterMan: Is English your first language? Don't be offended if it is. I'm not one of the people on here looking for a flame war. You just seem not to be understanding some concepts. What Brian was doing was something of a miniature satire.
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T15:41:52.2483738-05:00
I understand what he's saying - a minority getting a job over a white person making the white person feel "less in power." I get what he was saying. The way he said it (and now reading back on it, I somewhat take back what I said) made it seem like he thinks it's good/not bad if an unqualified person gets a job over a qualified person.
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T15:42:56.8075887-05:00
Brian is still a crazy radical social justice warrior who rages and calls others ignorant so he looks like the victim and so whites look like the bad guy.
TBR says2015-04-01T15:44:28.7185460-05:00
@Mister_Man - Good. Nice.
TheMarquis says2015-04-01T15:44:34.5530956-05:00
@MisterMan: I have never met either of you and do not care to insult or hear insults about either of you from the other. I don't see any intelligent arguments being made at this point.
TBR says2015-04-01T15:45:32.8119899-05:00
Now, I will said again, that is a poor characterization of how affirmative action works.
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T15:46:51.3680047-05:00
"Notice how every person here who vote 'yes' are the same white conservative males who deny racism, homophobia, and support discrimination against homosexuals and racial profiling. All of them are pathetic honestly." - You could have talked about conduct a bit earlier, TBR.
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T15:47:34.8488094-05:00
I mean TheMarquis* sorry.
TBR says2015-04-01T15:50:39.8846514-05:00
I was complimenting your conduct in honestly rereading the post. How do you want me to react to the quoted text?
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T15:51:39.9576064-05:00
@TBR - not you! I meant TheMarquis, I was reading your name while thinking of who to say that to, lol.
TBR says2015-04-01T15:52:07.3081079-05:00
OK. Got it.
TBR says2015-04-01T15:52:10.1941819-05:00
OK. Got it.
Varrack says2015-04-01T16:00:08.4942532-05:00
I'm willing to debate anyone here who is pro affirmative action.
TheMarquis says2015-04-01T16:02:19.3379779-05:00
MisterMan: If you actually read it, I denied that all conservatives were ignorant and said that it was an issue of perspective and that if there was a flaw involved it was a lack of empathy. I feel that is his issue as well. People don't try very hard to understand the other side. They just look at things like there are clear good and bad guys.
Mister_Man says2015-04-01T16:28:32.9761705-05:00
TheMarquis - Alright, then I agree with you :)
briantheliberal says2015-04-23T16:40:18.7579543-05:00
Case in point. You're all pathetic.
Mister_Man says2015-04-23T16:51:57.9017070-05:00
Only a privileged black male can say all these people who have an opposing opinion are pathetic. Alright Brian, let's hear it. How are we all pathetic?

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