• Yes, there is money in politics which is a sign of a failed democracy.

  • No, the voter still has the power to elect officials they choose.

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  • all round a failed country, filled with failed people

  • Most of the people aren't failed, but the government has failed the people. Corrupt politicians catering to special interest groups rather than the majority of the people.

  • I am saying yes, not because it has failed yet, but because it is well on its way. Our complacent society, people being told what to believe, instead of actually learning, and using their own judgement to determine the course of their nation is driving us off a cliff. Happy landings.

  • The lack of effective choice and the major influence of american corporations in lobbying the government for their ends is why it has failed the people of the country.

  • Keep coming up with conspiracy theories to make USA look bad :)

  • On the Corruption Perceptions Index, the US was in 17th place as one of the least corrupt nations on the planet. People always go on and on about how corrupt the US is without even knowing what real corruption actually is.

  • Despite all the money being involved in politics, I still believe people have the power over the government at this point. It may not be much considering all the corruption, but we still do hold more power over our government than the government holds over the American citizens.

  • America is an evolved democratic model that does what it says on the can. Everyone is afforded opportunity, not necessarily equally but nevertheless it is afforded them.

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reece says2015-09-20T15:03:13.8821017Z
@58539672 It's about perspective. The US has legalised corruption.
Rezamee says2015-09-20T15:04:09.4388446Z
Legalized bribery can be seen as corruption.
Haroush says2015-09-20T17:00:56.7151228Z
Really the power is in our hands. It is just a matter of who we as citizens give power to run our country. Which in turn boils down to ideologies and what ideologies support a capitalistic government such as ours. Or in other words, a free market system.
58539672 says2015-09-20T17:42:17.5366332Z
@reece The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) did an extensive comparative study on legal corruption among members of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in 1994. They found that nearly every single member (which by the way, the OECD is often used as a basic requirement for developed nation status) had some form of legal corruption. Even after the OECD Anti-Bribery Convention was ratified in 1999 and amended in 2007, most developed nations still have legal corruption. Having legal corruption still does not change the fact that the US is still one of the least corrupt nations on the planet, as are most members of OECD.
chandlerrouse says2015-09-20T17:48:07.1816745Z
Yes and that is an understaement.
reece says2015-09-20T17:49:33.3784114Z
@58539672 So those studies take it into consideration?
chandlerrouse says2015-09-20T17:56:25.1483299Z
Haroush your"free market" system has been corrupted beyond repair since Ronald Reagan, Alan Greenspan, and Milton Friedman changed banking buy the Modern Money Mechanics or fractional banking. Ron Reagan increased taxes 11 times in his tenure but cut taxes for the rich 11 times. He went from a 988 billion dollar deficit to a three TRILLION dollar deficit. He invented Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda by arming and training Afghanistan. He then illegally sold arms to IRAN. He defunded mental health and stated the first wave of homeless on the streets. People wanted to impeach him after the IRAN Contra deal, but the poor bastard got shot. So why is Ronnie McReagan so revered? The right wing neede a god to worship so they went on a massive campaign to make him into something he wasn't and time fades memories. So Since Reaganomics came into play..DEMOCRACY DIED.
reece says2015-09-20T18:00:27.6705937Z
The GOP has adopted fascist qualities.
58539672 says2015-09-20T18:02:58.3850920Z
@reece The FCPA's study is very extensive and takes into consideration most variables, especially legal corruption since that was the main focus of the study. The CPI isn't an exact science, so relying on specific numbers may produce some discrepancies. But it does take in enough of the whole "legal corruption" debate into consideration to where countries can be put into decent enough brackets. The US is still within the top 25 or so even with legal corruption. Most of the developed world is high on the list.
reece says2015-09-20T18:08:05.9918074Z
@58539672 Does it go by the worst types or is it just equal across the board when it comes to corruption in a individual state.
58539672 says2015-09-20T18:42:39.7240861Z
@reece The CPI general has a tier system with 3 types of corruption which are based off how much money and in what sector they are involved in. Grand Corruption, Political Corruption, and Petty Corruption. Within these three categories they get into more specific forms of corruption ranging from Lobbying (considered to be a minor form) to State Capture (considered to be a very, very major form). Not all corruption is regarded as equal, so the worst kinds have a larger impact on a nations score than more minor ones.
Haroush says2015-09-20T19:58:17.5589407Z
Let me just say this, special interest groups isn't political corruption as they are supported largely by individuals who agree with the basic message and idea of the group in question. In other words they are largely financed by individuals in this country who happen to care about politics. Now their are a few of them out there who do get their funding from groups of politicians and even the government, but for the most part special interest groups are supported by the people of the government.
Haroush says2015-09-20T19:58:50.0071487Z
People of the government = American citizens

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