Is the universe entirely governed by cause and effect?

Posted by: debate_power

Given all information about the universe at any time during its existence, is it possible to predict what happens in it with certainty?

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Our universe is not random and cause-and-effect is valid.
8 votes


Our universe has an element of randomness to it. Cause and effect are not related in all cases.
2 votes
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Idiosyncratic says2015-06-23T19:14:55.5694802-05:00
As for the description for this poll... I would say that cause and effect absolutely governs the universe without exception. However, I would also say that it is not always possible to predict with certainty what will happen within it, as this would require a complete knowledge of the causes and effects within our universe. Essentially, we will never be able to fully comprehend some forces in nature, meaning we will never be able to predict some things in nature.
MakeSensePeopleDont says2015-06-23T22:19:15.2305619-05:00
@Idiosyncratic Good post, one issue though. Anything can be learned and understood, this means that yes every cause and effect can be predicted. In fact, scientists, mathematicians, and computer scientists have come together and put together a functional model on paper that shows how our entire existence can be a computer simulation like the game "Sims". The only thing we are currently missing to make it happen is the power source. Think about it, we can currently simulate the big bang theory and consistently receive results from the computer simulations that show from the big bang to present, every aspect of the known universe to within the smallest of deviations. Each time we answer a new question or find a new element in the universe, we apply it to the simulation and our model consistently becomes closer and closer to an exact model of our known universe. As there are a limited number of "things" to learn in the universe, one could postulate that if humanity manages to survive long enough, we could come to know and understand everything there is to know about everything. Going further with that thought, one could actually estimate the time it would take humanity to learn everything about everything by theorizing the number of "things" there are to learn about in the universe and utilizing a mathematical equation showing humanities technological growth ratio over time.
MakeSensePeopleDont says2015-06-23T22:24:01.4804666-05:00
Correction to my last post: Power source should be processing power source.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-24T14:10:32.6782999-05:00
"...This means that yes every cause and effect can be predicted." I don't know. I don't think everything can. Or at least until everything has been, you can't claim that it can. Theres no telling whether we could ever have that capacity or not. Definitely just theory on your part. Theory I trust and practice too ... But I don't expect all things can be explained through cause and effect.
debate_power says2015-06-24T15:45:36.4933205-05:00
Good points, all of you.
Kreakin says2015-06-24T18:02:28.8947143-05:00
Hidden variable theory is wrong.
Kreakin says2015-06-24T18:03:47.2500052-05:00
Some things are not predictable and are random.
MakeSensePeopleDont says2015-07-22T19:45:32.7323509-05:00
@Kreakin -- The thing both yourself as well as the "Physicist" (who from what I can see remains completely unidentified so who knows his validity)fails to state is that human interaction in EVERY experiment used to "prove" randomness in itself changes the experiment. I would challenge this "Physicist" to use something actually happening in the universe to prove his theory of randomness.

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