Is this a lie? (Read description)
Posted by: Texas14Is Obama lying when he says that if you don't support his deal, you support war with Iran?
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I wouldn't so much say that it's him lying and more so just committing a rather petty logical fallacy. Don't support the deal? Then you must be a warmonger. It's the strawman fallacy, one we see all too often in news media. It stifles perfectly necessary debate, which are important for highlighting concerns and refining ideas, as it's a silence tactic. Making those who oppose you seem so bad that no one will want to listen to them. I say the President may not be lying because logical fallacies aren't inherently intentional, he could genuinely believe it, we just don't know. But seeing as he is politician, and as such a learned man, I would imagine that he's fully aware of the fallacy, as unfortunate as that may be.
The Iranians refuse to give up their nuclear program. It's a ten-year hold on their nuke plot or the United States goes to war against Iran (which may very well happen anyway after the agreement expires). Therefore, this assessment is probably accurate.
The question is, then, whether or not we want to go to war against Iran now or in 10 years.
To those who say that there's another option; what option? What option do you have in mind other than war and the current Deal?
If OP doesn't show me - exactly - what Obama said then I'm not going to bother making any inquiry in to the matter.
@Oreo, a better option is changing the deal so that we get our prisoners back, we don't release sanctions, and that there's no 24 day waiting period before inspections.
@Texas14
If we asked for the prisoners, they would've seen the value they had and could've asked for more than just sanction relief.
And we could give them sanction relief, but make it gradual over a several year period rather than immedtietly.
Forthelulz: what on earth is the Exterminatus action?
@Komododragon8 If we can't have it (their nukes) no-one can. These guys cover it in depth. (NSFW) http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Exterminatus (SFW) http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Exterminatus
I don't think he's lying. I think he genuinely believes it. Whether he's right or wrong is another matter entirely.
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