
Is this site mostly liberal?
Posted by: stargateBy that I mean is most of the active users liberal.
Poll closed on 9/20/2015 at 6:30AM.
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No... I think there is a good split, with conservatives edging out liberals just slightly.
In the forums, it's slightly more conservative. But in the polls, there's a slight edge on liberalism.
The forums, I agree are conservative (still a healthy split), polls are less dramatic a split, but very close to even, slight balance for conservative.
What're you talking about? Right-wingers domin8 debates and polls
I can't help but think how incredibly vague that word is in this context.
It is vagueish barrack, but say you and I. They are an easy 1:1 count. Brian the liberal vs harr(whateverhisfaceis) 2:2. The harder ones are say.... PetersSmith. Generaly consertative, but some liberal positions. Anyway, I think it is a good healthy mix
@TBR Well PetersSmith is a total female supremacist, i'm not sure if that's a conservative or liberal position...
@TBR Well PetersSmith is a total female supremacist, i'm not sure if that's a conservative or liberal position...
Economically, she's a total socialist leftist who supports downsizing the economy in favor of "equality."
@triangle Any kind of supremacism is right-wing...
Right, she says that, but her other positions seem more conservative.Uter may be a tough one to classify too.
@MechVarg Any kind of economic downfall is left-wing (:
@TBR Isn't Uther far-left?
@triangle She's a fascist remember?
Economically, doesn't fascism promote corporatism?
She's a hardcore leftist economically.
@triangle Kek, that's funny. Anyway, she is authoritarian right. She still supports hierarchal economy, but at the command of the government.
Maybe not far-right, but she's for sure authoritarian.
I don't know the answer to this anymore. It seemed to be that way a year ago, but now it seems more balanced out
It's ironic how she's seemed to be patriotic of the USA, and talk about how free the USA is compared to other nations. Yet she's literally against every policy politically of the USA.
@triangle She just likes to feel different like SOME people (not yourself)
@triangle Any kind of supremacism is right-wing..."
Not true, black supremacists tend to vote DemocrAt and white supremacists tend to vote conservative, but sometimes white supremacists are liberal, such as Adolph Hitler, and sometimes black supremacists are Conservative.
@Wylted Claiming the Democratic Party is left-wing is hella ignorant. Why am I talking to you? You're a troll.
I would like to point out that the binary users, those that would self-describe, are dull for this thought experiment. The wildcards are more interesting.
@TBR I'mma wildcard :D
An anarchist... Well, you tell us.
@TBR Don't lump me with the other anarchists. I would say this site is definitely right-wing.
Democrats are left wing. The terms democrat, left wing and liberal have been conflated to mean the same thing. If you don't like it, talk to Webster and get him to change the common usage of the words and his dictionary.
@MechVarg Are you just a socialist, or are you a communist?
@triangle the two are not mutually exclusive
There are no wild cards people are either conservative or liberal
@Wylted That's stupid and you're stupid.
@MechVarg But communists are usually seen as more radical socialists. I can classify as a Capitalist, even though I support very minor socialism here and there like with public schools or government agencies.
@triangle Again, with the equating social democracy with socialism
"MechVarg saysSeptember 13 2015 02:56 PM Report Post
@Wylted That's stupid and you're stupid."
That's not really an intelligent response. What I stated is actually a fact, and not even debatable. The terms have been conflated, and you're now using them improperly.
Wylted - that we can classify (even roughly) is fine. I'm just saying some are harder calls than others. I'm an easy one. I doubt anyone would mistake me for a conservative.
@MechVarg so you believe in social democracy? Didn't you have a communist symbol once though as your picture?
@Wylted Ask anyone outside the United States what it means to be left-wing. The Democratic Party certainly does not match the criteria. I'm sorry, but you are.
@triangle I'm not a social democrat, social democracy is regulated capitalism, not socialism.
@Wylted Did you go there? You truly are pathetic.
Social democrats are socialist. This is using the no true Scotsman fallacy.
@Wylted No, they do not meet the criteria. Honestly, research before you speak. Also, we're not allowed to think?
There was a time when they were socialists... A century ago
For once I am going to have a neutral stance on an augment. That beong this one.
Being
Based on my stances on issues, what do you guys think I am?
@Tajshar stoopid ;P
Wylted, come on. Ad homs are just childish.
@MechVarg lol
@Varrack Thank you. This guy is a moron.
@TBR - yeah I suppose so. I don't think we should attach labels to everyone here though. It's an even mix in my view.
Anarchism is a pretty bad idea. Atleast with Hitler you might have a chance to live a decent live as long as you were a Aryan.
@sniper I'm not even bothering with you
@Varrack That's true. I have some conservative views, and some progressive views. So we can't really label. I just identify with progressives more.
@Mechvarg Ok? I wasn't bothering you either.
Left wing, democrat
@The_American_Sniper People who weren't racially aryan were actually considered honorary aryans in Nazi Germany. Japanese people could be considered honorary aryans.
But you are not completely left wing.
I have a lot of progressive views. I want to ban abortion, abolish the MW, the EC, AA in schools/employment, the prog tax, make our immigration laws looser, cut spending on welfare, medicare, SS, and many others things. Those all call for change.
Tajshar2k - in my mental count, I put you on the liberal side, but not a clear-cut choice. I think we have been in a couple discussions where you were n the other side from me.
Tajshar2k - in my mental count, I put you on the liberal side, but not a clear-cut choice. I think we have been in a couple discussions where you were n the other side from me.
I think the progressive ideology is about advancing, not changing things back to the way they were. So conservatives want change, but back to what it was before.
Like me
@TBR Yes. I'm pro gun rights, pro interventionist, pro DP, and some other stuff. We usually agree on most things however.
@TBR Just a question, are you Pro capitalism?
But the thing is we need both parties. The keep both parties in check.
Witch is why I never agree when people say we need a one party system.
Sure I am pro-capitalism. That's is not an enforcement for dropping regulation and worker rights till we are reliving The Jungle.
Endorsement...
@stargate A two party system is horrible, we need more political parties so it's not a monopoly between two.
@TBR We never said to make everything an city, and make workers have no rights. I think workers should be treated well.
Still looking for where I back taking all your guns
@stargate That is incompatible with capitalism
I don't support a one-party system, but it does have it's advantages. I like how people under a one-party system get things done and make compromises, rather than arguing.
@triangle.128k I am fine with that, but it will not change I am it is like only 1% of the whole population that votes independent.
@TBR I gave up on that...
Look at the postcivil war in the south and when the troops left to allow them to rule themselves on a state level. Most southern states back then where democrat no republican.
@MechVarg I mean balance it out, but if it is a choose I choose the economic root rather then the workers.
@stargate but a two party system would be worse than a single party. And more and more people are starting to vote independent.
Multi party > single party > two parties
@taj - I suppose so. We should return to the era of 1776 in my opinion.
No I do not want a one party system, plus we will never be able to make it work.
@Varrack, So we all should buy muskets, and use carriages are transportation?
@taj - Yes! Wouldn't that be awesome?
@Varrack No.
@triangle.128k "Multi party > single party > two parties" Im not so sure about that hierarchy. Each system has its advantages and weaknesses. For instance, single party systems are very effective at getting things done, but they often only favor the majority (like China). While multiparty systems can be more inclusive of all the citizens, but given that such systems require alliances to form whole governments in a lot of situations, it is easy for a minority group to control the majority (like the last UK election). Plus these alliances often boil down to the coalition in control of the government and the opposition. So one could say they turn into two party systems anyway. And the reason they turn into two party systems is because the leading virtue of the system is its stability. It does not change much and is very easy to both understand and participate in.
Fascists are woefully underepresented :( #FascistLivesMatter
@taj - clearly you have no taste in culture. An era of 1776 would be amazing. It'd be cool to go back in time and live like that for a day or two.
Varrack - driving my wife's SAAB around today. Swear it is more turbocharged fun than a Porsche. I will nit be joining you in 1776 muskets and carrragrs
@Varrack A day or two would be awesome. But I miss my Ar-15.
@Varrack Hahaha, no.
@Varrack It would be great, just so as long as you're not black that is.
^ Or anyone who isn't a white male land owner
Or Chinese, or Indian, or H@11 just a women
Yes... To be a male white christian landowner is 1776. The Republican wet dream
I'm a Christian white male. Of course I'll be fine. It's 1776 after all ;)
@Varrack OHMYGODHOWDAREYOUBEAWHITECHRISTIANMALECHECKYOUR PRIVILEGIE !!!!!!!!!''
Black Muslim penguins were not welcomed in 1776 merica.
Neither were asian americans, so I guess i'm out.
Non-Christians were welcomed there actually, that's why Europeans back then came to america. They wanted to escape religious persecution which wasn't in america.
Varack, I used as Homs in response to her, and mine were softer and merely to prove a point.
1776 type government if it persisted until today would actually show more freedom towards minority persons than the status quo, and more technological development.
Triangle.128k - look again at the demographics. They were Christians, Christians who wanted religious freedoms, but Christians none the less
Just found a decent number. Out of the divirisity of religions, the largest non Christian group were Jews... Less than 2000.
Wylted - lets say that is true, and you could prove it. It's still a shot in the side for "conservatives".
Wylted - lets say that is true, and you could prove it. It's still a shot in the side for "conservatives".
I prefer people who's ideology is harder to pin down because at least they show individual thinking and reject partisan loyalties.
I would not consider myself conservative by any means and agree with most democratic ideals. I do have some qualms with modern leftism, mainly regarding civil liberties and free speech.
@TBR, that's true. People tend to look at the founders and think they agree with them politically anyway, when their philosophies were radically different, and they were also quite varied. Alexander Hamilton is nothing like Thomas Jefferson. I don't understand why the founders had less access to information, but were more sensible in how they approached politics than any current political party (including libertarians).
@Wylted 1. Ad hom* 2. He* 3. Softer? You used my age against me, which is completely ridiculous.
This is a bad question. Dont ask what people think this site is ... Ask them if they are liberal or conservative.
This is a bad question. Dont ask what people think this site is ... Ask them if they are liberal or conservative.
And if you want to know based on activity ... Ask the question 2 or 3 times with different poll closing times. Compare the deltas based on time they were left open.
And if you want to know based on activity ... Ask the question 2 or 3 times with different poll closing times. Compare the deltas based on time they were left open.
"I don't understand why the founders had less access to information, but were more sensible in how they approached politics than any current political party (including libertarians)."
Says something about what we call "educated" nowadays then doesnt it?
"I don't understand why the founders had less access to information, but were more sensible in how they approached politics than any current political party (including libertarians)."
Says something about what we call "educated" nowadays then doesnt it?
True
What TBR said + there are a whole lot of unaffiliated or apathetic (with regards to politics) people on this site too. It feels like a true balanced representation of our populace.