Israel should be charged with genocide because of the Palestinian slaughter.

Posted by: atheist-eo

  • Yes

  • No

51% 113 votes
49% 110 votes
  • 80% of the dead people are civilians. Israel targeted schools, hospitals, with thousands dying, babies, toddlers, mothers, grandmas, ALL of them DEAD because of Israel.

  • The isreali government to be exact.

  • Yes, but the Palestinians are not guilt-free either.

  • I think both the Israeli government and Palestine are responsible for their actions, both should be "charged". Just as AI said, No one is guilt-free. As for Israeli government, they have killed much more babies, women, and children, so I'd say they have more innocent blood on their hands. However, one life is not any more valuable than another's. It's as if inevitable that civilians can't be kept out of this.

  • The un told them not to bomb that school 17 times and they did it anyway

    Posted by: Dilara
  • Israel had the right to attack Hamas, not innocent civilians on a mass scale though... Though as has been said. Hamas too is far from innocent and let's be honest, is just as guilty if not more so than the Israeli government.

  • I understand defending yourself but Israel has been aiming directly at innocent people there is no excuse for that, their leadership needs to be tried by Geneva. By the way america needs to be warned (or tried) by Geneva for selling Israel weapons with full knowledge of what their intend use was.

  • say what you will about the Palestine-Israeli conflict, Hitler himself was a Zionist. He actually stated once that all the Jews at the time should move and make their own country, and he cited either Madagascar or, as it just so happens, Palestine. In fact, it was his meeting with the ruler of Palestine (at the time) that launched the support of the Allies countries moving and colonizing Palestine. Couple that with his vision of the supremacist Aryan race leading to the genocide of all nom-white races, not just Jews, and make of it what you will. He may be dead now, but his vision of empowering the white race by weakening both the Jews and the non-white Palestinian inhabitants lives on through Israel.

  • I really don't think this is even debatable. Of course they should be charged with genocide. Genocide is defined as the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group. And that is actually what Israel is doing. Israel is firing missiles at the most densely populated area on the earth. They are killing women, children and families who have nothing to do with the conflict. Israel has Palestinians locked into an open air prison (with a wall trapping them in with is pretty similar to the Berlin wall). They control the boarders, what goes in or what and they even have power over their electricity grid. The UN has stated that Israel has commited crimes against humanity numerous times. However due to the USA's veto power there has been nothing anyone else can do about it. During the last conflict Israel bombed both hospitals and schools how can this not be called a genocide? It is argued that Israel are fighting for the right of self-preservation. When Palestine attacks them they fight back. This is not an accurate statement. Do not get me wrong Palestine is also reasonable for attacks of violence. Nonetheless they are trapped in an area with no human rights. Israel has complete control over their nation. How can they be expected not to fight for their freedom when they have no human rights what so ever. Their land can be taken from them for no reason, their electricity can be turned off when Israel wants it to. Look at how many times the UN has tried to stop Israel. How can anyone say this is not a genocide?

  • This is a ridiculous argument because if anyone on the opposing side who was commenting actually took the time to look at the "dangerous" weapons Palestinians are using to defend themselves, they'd see it was nothing more then homemade rockets; while Israel, on the other hand has one of the world's most powerful militaries. It's really an unfair fight and is most definitely genocide.

  • just watch anything other than main stream media

  • Yes, but NOT the current genocide. They should be prosecuted for systematic and violent deportation of muslims over 80 years ago.

  • are you kidding me, are u actually saying that Israel done nothing wrong? would you like me to come to Ur house, break in and claim that it is mine? Israel have slaughtered innocent children and bombed cities. its like when you fight with your brother and your parents are on his side so you cant do anything. same in this situation. Israel is destroying Palestine and they cant do anything cause Israel is supported by America. and its not called Israel, its called preoccupied Palestine .

  • F*ck isreal

  • I am going to make an assumption, I admit, but I will back up my assumption with solid argument. If the shadoe were on the other foot and Muslims had financial and military advantages over Israel, they would have committed genocide far more effectively. Muslims fire rockets aimlessly into Israeli general civilian population That is an evil act meant to instill terror.

  • They've intentionally killed innocents.

  • Hey, wait. This isn't porn

  • They've done stuff worse than this and gotten away with it. The Jews need to be punished. People need to wake up and smell the napalm in the morning because sticking your head in the sand will only make it worse.

  • Al-Nakba was the start of the genocide which continues to this day. Look at the Map, IT GENOCIDE!

  • Israel is a war criminal. Every single day they violate Geneva Code and our tax dollars pay for it. It is disgusting what they do to Palestinians.

  • Israel is one pain in the butt... they make blockades around Plaestine and say that its their's.. bunch of idiots...they even developed the iron dome for god's sake... they should pay the price of this mass slaughter.. i don't see any difference between Hitler and them..

  • Israel is committing genocide every single day

  • Israel is a orchestrated state, created by UK. Since its creation it has destabilized the region. Through years, it was given aid in the form of money to build it larger and larger, it is considered a hostile satelite state by neighboring countries. It is more like a overgrown base in the region and is still growing. It will not stop untill Gaza and the Eastern region is not fully annexed.

  • Because most people Israel targeted were civilians.

    Posted by: Womp
  • Israel as a country should cease to exist.

  • yeah, As humans, We should all fall under the same rules

  • No.

    Posted by: Shield
  • They should be charged with oppression that's what.

  • Israel is currently defending themselves against the Palestinians and the Hamas terrorist who want nothing more then the destruction of Israel.

  • The People of Israel do not want to be fighting. Muslims in the mid east have attacked them many times in history. What would you do if every day you were under constant threat of missile attack or suicide bombers every day. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't sit idle. Also, the Palestinians have broken many cease fires and store their weapons in schools and hospitals were there are children. This has caused many Israelite attacks to unintentionally hit children. We need to understand that the Palestine people live by war or Jihad.

  • Israel is defending themselves from terrorism groups that have A) abducted jewish teens B) are responsible for the deaths of those that have died from Missile attacks C) have been bombing buses and killing Jews since these terrorist groups were founded ... Also-a genocide is killing a group of people because of their race. What the Nazis did to the Jews was genocide-Israel is defending themselves from a group of people that have attacked them rather than hunting people down inside their borders because of their race.

  • They aren't systematically killing them, just systematically making their lives hell. Honestly the stuff I read about how Israelis treat Palestinians makes me shutter with utter disappointment. You would think a group that has been oppressed by almost every nation they have come in contact with would understand the value of compassion. Yet settlers feel some god given right to trample over others because they are not of the same ethnic group or religion. Israel is truly a hypocritical nation that doesn't deserve the land they were bestowed. This isn't a jab at Judaism, but is a jab at Israelis who believe they can be hypocrites and not be called out for it.

  • No, but I would support charging Palestine with genocide

  • Hamas attacked Israel first by launching rockets. Israel then launch its invasion to neutralize any launch sites and hidden tunnels in the Gaza strip. The death of civilian lives is tragic, but not new or unexpected when it comes to warfare. So (in my personal opinion) the one who started the conflict is to blame, in this case, Hamas.

  • Its Palestine's fault for choosing a terrorist organization to run their government...

  • If someone shoots you, why wouldn't you shoot back?

  • What a weird genocide it would be, since the so-called Palestinian population is always growing, and living in better conditions than populations in sovereign states such as Syria, Iraq, and many African countries. Instead of keeping blaming Israel for committing war crimes, the free world should help Israel in its righteous fight against terror, and to replace the Palestinian leadership that supports terror in a moderate one, that would negotiate with Israel for a peace initiative to help secure a better future for both sides

  • Israel do everything it can to prevent harming innocent people. however, Israel has to defend itself against terror. Israel spent hundreds of millions of dollars in order to save life, while Hamas does whatever it can in order to hit as many citizens as possible, in both sides. They use innocent people as human shield and then cry to the world that Israel is killing civilians. Hamas is committing self genocide

  • If Israel were to be charged with genocide then Palestine should be as well. For years, Palestinians have been bombing Israel, killing, raping and kidnapping their people. So why do we not condemn this? Why when Israel is trying to defend itself do we have a problem?

  • The palestines are setting up bases in schools, hospitals, businesses, etc. to make Israel look bad and they gain more support.

  • It was Israels land in the first place,Jews have been through enough! they are never accepted where they go,there are faults on both sides,no side is more responsible than the other.Both Palestine and Israel should be allowed to keep their land and the world can just move on

  • Self-defense is a right. Whether it's individuals or nation-states, they can defend themselves from aggression. The two have a right to self-determination, and have the right to govern their own affairs, but Israel never resorts to terrorism. They don't send suicide bombers into cities, Israel is clearly on the defensive, and it's their right to defend their people, their country, and their culture as we do ours.

  • Israel is, and has been, DEFENDING ITSELF FROM TERRORISTS.

  • I don't always approve of everything the Israeli government does, but genocide is an extremely serious and unwarranted claim, in my opinion. I have sympathy for those suffering on both sides.

  • Isreal has the right to defend its self

  • Palestine attacked first and Israel gave them what they deserved, anyone who thinks you can attack a country and then play the victim is a complete idiot.

  • No, there is no genocide. Israel defends itself. The "Palestinian" governments are corrupt and warmongerers. The people of Palestine brought this on themselves when the rejected an Arab state and Israeli state in 1948 and when they elected a terrorist government.

  • Is this a joke. Israel is about to be destroyed by Iran and terror organizations like al shabaab, Isis, and Benghazi and you want to punish them!! They are on the brink of extinction and we the United States of America are supporting it through our nuclear deals and sanctions with Iran, the very country that chants death to america! NO NO NO NO!!!!!!

  • As an Israeli citizen, I can tell you, Israel does it's best to give the bast life to Palastinians without hurting the Israelis security. when thousands of missiles are being dropped on your head, it's the natural thing to fight back. try thinking what would happen if missile were deoping on your kid's head. we as Israelis do nod want to fight the muslims do because they want to extinct us... please support the right side!

    Posted by: yoad09
  • Israel is just protecting itself and has gone out of their way to protect civilian lives of both Arabs and Israelis. Palestinians is a term from 5th century BCE hundreds of years after Israel was first founded and refers to the area of modern-day Israel and Jordan. If you note the media at the time that Israel became a state called the Jews Palestinians and not the Arabs. But in the end, Civilizations rise and fall no matter what you believe one day it won't matter much if at all.

  • Opression isnt synonomous with genocide

  • Hell no! The wicked are rebuked by the Upright and Palestine is wicked.

  • Israel is the only pro-democratic state in the Middle East that supports equality for women, Religious freedom, Capitalism, And not cutting someone's head off for apostasy or having a woman drive a car. Israel defends itself from terrorist groups that are the primary government of Palestine currently, Most notably Hamas. People need to realize just who they're supporting when they decide to demonize Israel for protecting its citizens, Arab, Jewish or otherwise, From outside evils.

  • Oh yes we should totally side with the nations that have an ongoing history of stoning gays and throwing them off buildings, Not allowing women to drive, Physically attacking women who aren't seen as beautiful or remove their hijabs. Not to mention These nations have been trying to destroy Israel since day one (Seriously the day England gave the Jews their promised land every middle eastern country declared war on Israel). Over 70 years of near constant war should make anyone a bit jumpy (but Israel will still help these countries if they need it)

  • Genocide is not the term for this neither is any definition close to this.

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Shield says2014-11-22T15:12:14.0192833-06:00
If you terrorize a people who have been terrorized for millenia, don't expect them to not retaliate.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T15:14:05.7450509-06:00
I'm so sick of the word "genocide." The Bible actually welcomes it. What it doesn't welcome is oppression and slavery, which Nordics have partaken in for the most part.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T15:14:46.8467374-06:00
Sinful races got what they deserved in the old Testament. Such as white folks, tribe of Dan.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T15:16:03.7099082-06:00
I have diehard Catholicism in my veins, but that's how it was.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T15:16:48.5601635-06:00
But there are plenty of good white folks though. But a lot are racists and oppressors
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T15:34:37.0216651-06:00
Shield: That does not mean that it is not genocide.
Shield says2014-11-22T15:43:45.8850283-06:00
"Genocide is the systematic destruction of all or a significant part of a racial, ethnic, religious or national group." Israel is not systematically killing Palestinian nationals. Israel is retaliating against Palestine's systematic killing of Israeli nationals. But not even Palestine is conducting genocide because Palestine is not killing a large enough portion of Israelis. Palestine is conducting terrorism and Israel is retaliating. These are fundamental truths. If Palestine stops terrorizing then Israel will stop retaliating. Peace cannot logically come to be from the opposite path.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T15:52:41.8218686-06:00
Retaliation is not a proper justification. You found say Hitler was retaliating against the Treaty of Versailles by invading Poland. That doesn't make it right, though.
atheist-eo says2014-11-22T15:59:50.1932522-06:00
"Israel is not systematically killing Palestinian nationals" They are, they have them imprisoned in Gaza and bombing them indiscriminately, they say that Hamas is there but it's confirmed that they were not in those schools and hospitals. Israel has killed 2100+ Palestinians (>70% civilians) and 10,000+ wounded. Palestine or Hamas killed 66 soldiers and 6 civilians
PetersSmith says2014-11-22T16:01:34.0607154-06:00
Where's the Babylonians when you need them?
Shield says2014-11-22T18:59:09.3144009-06:00
@Atheist-Independent: thats what scholars like to call a false analogy.
Shield says2014-11-22T18:59:22.4890223-06:00
@Atheist-Independent: thats what scholars like to call a false analogy.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:20:05.9845351-06:00
Uh, the Nordics again..
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:26:30.6132039-06:00
Atheist-Indepdent, exactly what basis is there for "genocide" claims? If one is to label Israel's actions as a "genocide"--pretty much every military action taken by countries such as the U.S, England, France, Spain, Italy, Germany also fall under the same category--particularly the U.S. The fact is that genocide constitutes a *significant* killing of people; usually perpetrated for ethnic reasons and in many cases going into the millions. Gaza was NOT a genocide. Besides, militants are actually found to be over-represented in the statistics.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:29:07.9683865-06:00
@heyfur, the U.N was was allowing Hamas to store and fire weaponry from its buildings. Hamas is the official government of Gaza--therefore they dictate to everything, including how many people get killed and WHEN the conflict ends. Over 4500 rockets were fired into Israeli territory; no other country would tolerate that.
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T20:30:49.8194807-06:00
Atheist-eo, it's really a shame you didn't attempt spewing this nonsense on any of my polls. Hamas is a genocidal Islamic terror organization and the people of Gaza support it. Hamas lies systematically and repeatedly. You don't mention that the Hamas interior ministry laid out the following guidelines - "Anyone killed or martyred is to be called a civilian from Gaza or Palestine, before we talk about his status in jihad or his military rank. Don't forget to always add 'innocent civilian' or 'innocent citizen' in your description of those killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza." - "Begin [your reports of] news of resistance actions with the phrase 'In response to the cruel Israeli attack,' and conclude with the phrase 'This many people have been martyred since Israel launched its aggression against Gaza.' Be sure to always perpetuate the principle of 'the role of the occupation is attack, and we in Palestine are fulfilling [the role of] the reaction.'" - "Avoid publishing pictures of rockets fired into Israel from [Gaza] city centers. This [would] provide a pretext for attacking residential areas in the Gaza Strip. Do not publish or share photos or video clips showing rocket launching sites or the movement of resistance [forces] in Gaza." - "Avoid entering into a political argument with a Westerner aimed at convincing him that the Holocaust is a lie and deceit; instead, equate it with Israel's crimes against Palestinian civilians." - "The narrative of life vs. The narrative of blood: [When speaking] to an Arab friend, start with the number of martyrs. [But when speaking] to a Western friend, start with the number of wounded and dead. Be sure to humanize the Palestinian suffering. Try to paint a picture of the suffering of the civilians in Gaza and the West Bank during the occupation's operations and its bombings of cities and villages." It seems as if you took their suggestions to heart.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T20:33:24.4672847-06:00
Emilrose Too bad.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:34:51.4603827-06:00
@atheist-co, get your facts right: it is very much established that Hamas was using schools and hospitals. The al-Shifa hospital was even used as Hamas' headquarters. Even an Arab journalist reported on it, and got dismayed after it was used by the pro-Israeli side:
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:35:32.7374535-06:00
*eo, lol.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T20:37:36.3814683-06:00
Not that I side with Israel. But that's technically wrong. Indiscrimate is not the same as genocide (indiscriminate is actually an evil).
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:39:42.1158563-06:00
"Indiscriminate" exploitation of women and children is something that Hamas handle perfectly.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T20:40:55.9809093-06:00
Correction: "Hamas handles perfectly"
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T20:42:20.3758273-06:00
Oh Adam2isback, why don't you go start another one of your neo-nazi opinion questions.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T20:43:32.9296859-06:00
DavidMGold Why don't you shut your mouth?
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:48:48.8576467-06:00
And btw, it's the governance of Hamas/Fatah that "oppress" the Palestinians--not Israel.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T20:49:48.8076781-06:00
Emilrose Oppression -- you should know what it means -- your country (as well as the Nordics, cause Israel and Scandinavia are the same) oppressed tomboys and autistic folks til 1998.
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T20:53:18.1318907-06:00
""[Israel] has been sending tens of thousands of voice messages to citizens' phones...Asking them to evacuate their homes by a certain time...There is no reason to be concerned by them or pay attention to them and by no means should they be heeded." --Hamas Ministry of Interior spokesman It is utterly amazing the extraordinary lengths Israel goes to and yet we find this page littered with individuals that are even more shameless than an genocidal Islamic terrorists carrying on their efforts to exterminate Jews.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T20:57:57.8926077-06:00
Hm no, Israel is situated within the western region of the Middle East--which is *far* from Scandanavia. Your assertion that a *few* Jews look Nordic doesn't my actually prove any Israeli connection to the land. FYI..Neither have been oppressed in Israel!
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T20:59:42.0109335-06:00
Emilrose Anyone knows that oppression happened. So either you don't have any idea of what you're saying. Any human being would be against what they've done or for it. Anyways, autistic folks didn't get any help until 1998 Neither have tomboys Orthodox Judaism is the religion of Israel -- which is a bigoted religion too, much like Lutheranism.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:00:20.1071103-06:00
@DavidMGold, you should see Hamas' new music video outlining their "great" (sarcasm) love for the Jewish people.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:00:47.0256393-06:00
Emilrose I don't know what to tell you lol I mean I gave you Israelis who clearly have a Nordic look and you still for some weird reason say no. Lol
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T21:06:43.2158727-06:00
Emilrose, are you talking their video called "Attack! Carry Out Terror Strikes?"
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:07:42.9631067-06:00
Actually, Orthodox Judaism does not make up the entire religion of Jews in Israel. Around 30-35% of Jews assign to complete Orthodox belief while over 50% are traditional. Concerning the ultra-orthodox; they're mostly a minority.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:08:30.4800975-06:00
The hell is traditional Orthodox?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:08:42.7571401-06:00
*The hell is traditional Judaism?
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:09:26.0933845-06:00
You have me some Israelis who may look Nordic but trying saying the while Israeli population does, at least half of it is Sephardi!
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:09:39.0850427-06:00
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:12:08.8488827-06:00
LOL, then why does Scandinavia have the most friendly relations with Israel? Why did Nordicists consider the Israeli people white in the 19th century, huh? It didn't just spring out of nowhere. Lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:13:23.7152023-06:00
Plus a majority of the Israelis look Nordic. I'm sure many of the descriptions of Israelis were indeed ranging on Nordic or at least Germanic. Hell even the Hebrew language when hearing it is no different from Danish or Swedish. They all sound similar. And Anglo-Saxon. How about that "shall"?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:14:20.9920037-06:00
Those Spanish names that are allegedly "Sephardic" are really descended from the indigenous Basques and Spaniards -- Ramos, Fuentes. Some are even Arab. Like Garcia.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:16:21.2976613-06:00
Lol, they are Sephardic Jews--hence why they attend synagogue. Again..You need to check your facts!
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:17:10.7334275-06:00
Hence they act like Nordic folks too lol
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:17:58.3440171-06:00
As Adam 2 points out Jews can't have blonde or red hair and blue eyes unless they're mixed with European whites. Genetic testing shows that Palestinians have jewish ancestry. Not all Jews left when they were expelled. The ones who stayed are believed to have mixed with Arabs and other peoples and become the Palestinians.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:18:08.8426825-06:00
Anyhows, what the hell is traditional Judaism? Lol
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:19:24.1273173-06:00
@DavidMGold, no this one is entitled: "run away Zionists", and (in animation) it features a Palestinian trying to run over a Jewish man in his car. It directly coincided with the car attacks in Jerusalem. Here's a link:
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:19:33.7098891-06:00
Dilara It's not even that. Israelis were probably the original whites before the idea of Europeanism even came. Europeanism isn't even a white idea. It was started by the Greeks and Turks.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:20:05.2382975-06:00
Dilara Hebrew, Danish, Swedish, Anglo-Saxon Old English all sound similar.
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:24:00.3841755-06:00
Adam 2. Hebrew is a Semitic language. So is Arabic. Danish, English and Swedish are all Germanic languages. German, Arabic and Hebrew all have that back of throat harsh soundingness.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:25:55.3703013-06:00
And seriously?! The Hebrew language sounds absolutely nothing like Danish or Swedish. It's one thing observing that a few Jews may look Nordic--but to actually state the Hebrew language resembles those two is ridiculous--as is falsifying history and claiming that Sephardi Jews are not even "Jews". Who do you think got expelled from Spain during the crusades and inquisition? Some of them went into Europe--as well as the Middle East (including Palestine ) and they remained Jews.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:27:08.7985599-06:00
English is a combination of different dialects.
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T21:28:36.9470179-06:00
Dilara, I've addressed your antisemitic libel and your erroneous claims about genetics as it relates to the Jewish people, but unfortunately that doesn't stop you from repeating and advancing the same failed claim elsewhere. I also have taken time to explain to you that there were no Palestinian people. Oy vey, Jew hatred seems to be a stubborn foe and the elephant in the room is...Islamic conquest, domination, terrorism, supremacism, and genocide.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:28:46.1980551-06:00
Yea, you kinda misunderstood his point there Dilara.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:30:10.1462349-06:00
You're absolutely right that Hebrew has a harsh, gutteral beauty to it. Much like Anglo-Saxon English (note be careful, I mean Anglo-Saxon Old English, not the modern southern England English which really is descended from the Normans). American English is more like Anglo-Saxon English and Scots (which is a Germanic language in the south of Scotland). Danish, Swedish, Anglo-Saxon English, Hebrew, hell maybe even Russian too. All have harshness. Arab not really. Many Arab names have a sweet, romantic sound to it. Like Al-Jazerra. As opposed to a more harsher Johansen. Get me?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:30:38.1322761-06:00
Bacdafucup isn't personal to you. I just was referencing it. But still, Arab is not like those two other ones.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:31:59.8926215-06:00
Palestinians actually have mostly Arab origin--which thus points further to the fact that the vast majority migrated from countries such as Syria, Egypt, Jordan, and even Saudi Arabia.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:32:31.0622207-06:00
DavidMGold What is anti-Semitic about it. Hebrew, Anglo-Saxon English, Danish, Swedish, perhaps maybe Russia all sound similar. I've heard prenounciations. Rushashaun (pardon me if my spelling is wrong) -- you're gonna tell me that Hebrew word doesn't sound like a typical Germanic word, seriously?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:33:50.3218121-06:00
Emilrose No she didn't-- as her answer shows: "Adam 2. Hebrew is a Semitic language. So is Arabic. Danish, English and Swedish are all Germanic languages. German, Arabic and Hebrew all have that back of throat harsh soundingness." Except for the Arab part -- which has a sweater sound than the gutteralness of Hebrew, Germanic languages.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:34:53.7037995-06:00
And that word is not Yiddish, it is actually Hebrew, so you don't win this time.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:36:11.0788075-06:00
“A gut yor,” another Hebrew phrase. Also sounds like something you'd hear in Sweden or Danish.
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:39:04.0493899-06:00
Arabic isn't related to Germanic languages at all but glittery sound similar. Hebrew isn't related to Germanic languages either but Semitic and Germanic languages both have harsh back of throat sounds and therefor sound similar
Shield says2014-11-22T21:39:20.6663231-06:00
What the fvck.
Shield says2014-11-22T21:39:40.9117173-06:00
Why is this conversation happening.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:40:30.7374785-06:00
Dilara Several of the Hebrew phrases like "Rushah Shannah" (I don't if I spelled that correctly) and “A gut yor" sound exactly like words and phrases of the Swedish or Danish languages. The same can't be said about Arabic which incorporates actual surnames that end with A and names that end with A, thus having a more sweater sound.
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T21:40:59.2539129-06:00
Shield, that would be Adam's "contribution" to the topic.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:41:21.6240261-06:00
Dilara they're not the same and the surname distribution in the Balkins is stunningly different from the rest of Eastern Europe (which has more harsher gutteral tones), implying Arab influence. Greece came from the Moors so they're a bit difference.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:43:48.8705383-06:00
I just watched a video with an Arab lady saying, "Hi I'm Carole it's a pleasure to meet you" translated to Arabic. That sounds more like Croatian or Italian and Greek at the least. Sweeter than your Hebrew or Germanic languages. They can't be the same.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:44:32.3627807-06:00
Hell I even sensed a bit of French in that translation when the women said something that sounds like "Caroll" (Which is indeed an Anglo-Norman/French type of word or name).
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T21:45:55.4785151-06:00
Emilrose, speaking of U.N. schools, did you happen to catch Naief Al-Hattab's facebook post congratulating the terrorists for their attack on the synagogue in Jerusalem? Of course, since attracting attention it was taken down. He's the school director of UNRWA’s Zaitoun Elementary School Boys “B” and former school headmaster of Shijia Elementary School Boys “A” for Refugees.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:46:08.5667473-06:00 Look at that phrase. Can you really say that sounds like Germanic? Doesn't it sound more French, Croatian or Albanian? 0:41 in the video
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:46:19.4554077-06:00
David is probably jewish and doesn't want to admit that he has European ancestry and little jewish ancestry. Even haaretz says that many Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of kazars who were forced to convert to Judaism. Some don't even have any jewish ancestry. Palestinians and Jews are genetically similar
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:48:39.0268183-06:00
DavidMGold What have you contributed? Bar fights? Womanizing? Getting high on steroids? Military wars with no purpose than to rob? At least Italy, Spain and Japan are modernizing and leaders in technical advances. Israel, Denmark, Sweden and Britain are still in the same old-fashioned condition they are since WWII.
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:48:51.4069571-06:00
David is jewish or evangelical
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:50:07.4464847-06:00
Dilara I don't think so. He probably has no clue on ethnicity. Palestianians are not really similar in the original sense. The a lot today might be is that the Israelis who didn't leave mixed a lot. But even then that's just Palestine. You have to account for Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan which are closer to India culturally, except for the religion.
Shield says2014-11-22T21:50:48.8467683-06:00
If only you all realized that race doesn't exist.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:51:03.5891463-06:00
And that "womanizing, bar fights, and purposeless military wars" is not really directed at him so much as white society in general.
Shield says2014-11-22T21:52:09.4072339-06:00
It's like you are all arguing about how electrons stick to an atom, based on the false assumption that they do in the first place.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:53:04.7538115-06:00
Add Germany to the list of modern advances and innovators.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:54:43.1179751-06:00
Dilara It matters not, cause Germanics and Israelis are the same in reality. Hebrew could really just be another form of Swedish or Danish. I don't see much difference.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:55:18.3504987-06:00
Shield Race does exist. Everyone belongs to a tribe. It's how it's been since the beginning of time.
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:56:28.0774663-06:00
Adam 2. Many Jews are descendants of Kazars who were forced to convert to Judaism.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:57:23.9268983-06:00
Dilara I don't mean the Kazars. I mean the Israelis. Most Israelis are really Germanic folks. It can be argued that Germanics descend from the Israelis.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T21:57:45.2850149-06:00
@Dilara, try to refrain from making unproven accusations--as far as I'm aware David is a Christian. As for your fallacious comments surrounding Jewish (Ashkenazi) ancestry; again they are largely incorrect. As you so conveniently included in one of your comment: (maybe just stick to the opinion answer?) genetic tests also show that Ashkenazi have a large portion of Middle Eastern heritage. Keep in mind that European Jews only ventured over to Western Europe in the 15th century; prior to that they were mostly within the Mediterranean countries-such as Spain, Italy, and Greece, with some inhabiting certain areas of Eastern Europe.
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T21:58:42.4894815-06:00
Dilara, you just don't won't admit that your libel has been refuted, but since when does that ever stop Jew hatred from relentlessly marching on apparently oblivious to all reason. There was no conversion to Judaism by the Khazar Khaganate. Hebrew University scholar and historian Professor Shaul Stampfer dedicated four years to researching this topic in depth and thoroughly from 2010-2014 and found that "the conversion of the Khazars is a myth with no factual basis". Haaretz is a a favorite among Jew haters for obvious reasons, which Caroline Glick has pointed out numerous times at JP. Your claims about genetics are unfounded lies.
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:59:03.3950487-06:00
Emilirose many Jews DNA isn't jewish but Khazar from when they were forced to convert to Judaism.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T21:59:15.3449551-06:00
Emilrose Explain how a lot of Hebrew sounds like Germanic languages, and yes those words are not Yiddish, they are Hebrew.
Dilara says2014-11-22T21:59:53.1759251-06:00
Many Jews have white features and pale skin, light eyes ect. They would need a lot of white European ancestry to look like that
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:01:18.8533219-06:00
Dilara The language itself is enough to show that the Israelis were really whiter than Mediterranean folks in general. Hebrew is perhaps a Germanic language.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:02:58.9969929-06:00
Adam, if a dark skinned person has a child with an Asian, and that child then has a child with the child of a light skinned person and a native american, what "tribe" does the child of those two children belong to? Or should we just exterminate them in order to make your assertion true?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:04:08.2289053-06:00
Shield lol when did I ever call for extermination of Asians and Native Americans?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:04:21.7056103-06:00
I got no problems with either of them.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:05:13.0777275-06:00
Again: fallacious claim, one of which that has actually been disapproved by historians and genetic testing itself. Jews were white before exile into Europe..However, many do actually have a "tan"--this strongly includes European Jews. Greek people technically fall under the "white" category but they're still slightly different in appearance and complexion.
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T22:05:36.6499319-06:00
In 2013, the results of the largest genetic study on Jews released by the Wayne State University found that Ashkenazi, North African, and Sephardi Jews shared substantial genetic ancestry, that they derive from Middle Eastern and European populations and found no detectable Khazar genetic origins.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:06:04.6526499-06:00
And also, to you people arguing about the ethnic ties of Israelis, obviously Israelis are more European than most other middle easterners - many Israelis are the descendants of European Jews whom survived the holocaust, and others are immigrants. We live in a global society with genetic diversity too great to allow for a concept so narrow as race.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:06:34.3990313-06:00
Emilrose I've never seen this grand (sarcasm), major (sarcasm again), intellectual (sarcasm) testing of Jewish blood lol Plus you also have to account for why many of the Hebrew phrases sound like Swedish phrases. Lol Yes Rushahuanna Yon Kipor (another Germanic sounding phrase).
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:06:52.4324001-06:00
Actually, many Arabs look white!
Shield says2014-11-22T22:07:12.4625433-06:00
Adam, good job avoiding the question. "lol"
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:07:19.5033691-06:00
Emilrose Yeah tan, because they're closer to the equator. The tan is no different than Nordic folks who go for a tan.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:07:45.4561203-06:00
If Israel ever were to have a cold frost, they would turn into Scandinavians lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:09:04.5876635-06:00
Shield I'm not avoiding it. Lol Why did you even ask about wiping them out? Lol Doesn't make sense.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:09:53.4056799-06:00
DavidMGold They're still not Israelis lol Plus the Hebrew language is closer to the Germanic languages.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:11:49.4682911-06:00
An example of this huge similarity: Hebrew word "yes"=ken, German word for "yes"=ja/jep, Hebrew word for "no"=lo, German word for "no"=nein. *not*. In sounding Hebrew can be similar to Russian, but not really any other European languages.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:13:35.1568369-06:00
Emilrose I said Germanic, not German look for a Swedish or Danish word. Try again. German really isn't Germanic. I mean do people really have an issue understanding that Germanic exists? Lol
Shield says2014-11-22T22:13:37.9804007-06:00
Adam, you're "study" of language is the biggest pile of rubbish I have ever seen. Language, unlike genetic diversity, falls into very specific categories. Hebrew and Arabic phrases sound similar, but unlike your assertion about Scandanavian languages, they actually mean the same thing. Example: Shalom aleikhem (hebrew) and A'Salaam Alaikum (Arabic); both meaning Peace be upon you.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:16:09.9692521-06:00
Adam, you are indeed avoiding the question as you have yet to answer it. And you are a neo-nazi, so why would I not make a sarcastic comment about extermination to suit your false science?
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T22:16:16.0947275-06:00
The topic was genocide as it it relates to Israel and it's conflict with Hamas. If you keep indulging Adam he's going to continue steering the topic off into the swamp. On the topic, I'd posit that Israel is a victim of a campaign of genocide at the hands of Arab Muslims who have waged wars with that explicit goal, Hamas' founding charter called for it, and there is a mass of empirical evidence of their unrelenting campaign to destroy the state of Israel and exterminate every Jew. They commit every war crime imaginable in pursuit of their perpetual Jihad warfare. It is a travesty and gross perversion of truth for people to turn around and accuse the state of Israel of being guilty of the same action. It is even more astounding when you look around the Islamic World at large and see this myopic obsession with Israel is not only a veiled hatred for Jews but a sympathy for Islamic genocide and domination.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:17:41.3996799-06:00
@Shield, absolutely. His "language" assessments couldn't be more inaccurate. Again Adam, the Hebrew language still does not sound "Germanic".
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:18:13.4416691-06:00
Shield If I were to talk about exterminating, it would be towards whites, not Native Americans or Asians. I mean really, now?
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:18:40.4764295-06:00
Dam, it's soo early here.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:20:03.6698559-06:00
David I agree with you, except of your loose use of "Islamic," as the section of Muslims whom perpetuate Jewish hatred is small in portion to all the true Muslims whom love all people regardless of belief system or ancestry.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:20:05.4950325-06:00
Emilrose You are being wrong yourself. Russian in most cases descends from Scandinavian languages. The Rus' people who took over and colonized what is now Russia, descended from the Vikings. By saying that Hebrew sounds Russian (which is different from the Slavic languages of Eastern Europe), you're in effect saying it sounds Germanic, since Russian -- at least 95% of the language descends from the Germanic languages.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:22:26.9384191-06:00
Adam, I don't give a fvck about my extermination question. Answer my actual question regarding "tribes." Jesus fvcking Christ.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:23:00.1035939-06:00
Shield You cursing me out? Now I don't believe you're white. Have a good day.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:23:57.0428639-06:00
Adam, one again your study of language is humiliating to yourself.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:24:28.2736635-06:00
I did not state the actual language is similar--as there's obvious differences, Russian writing for example is more similar to Greek; I exclusively meant the pronunciation of certain words.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:24:30.7540317-06:00
Shield, I don't see anyone laughing at me. I certainly know Dilara is on my side, so it's not humiliating to anyone.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:24:45.1526471-06:00
Maybe the rednecks perhaps, but they're laughed upon by most of the world.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:25:05.9311127-06:00
Pardon me, not rednecks, idiots with no education, I meant.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:25:11.5160559-06:00
Adam, still you avoid the question. Have you no answer? Do you feel attacked? Racist scum.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:26:36.8502439-06:00
Russian doesn't sound Greek. Do names like Stamos and Kostopolis sound Russian to you? I don't think so.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:27:34.5717239-06:00
Shield Are you Native American or Asian? No. I don't think so. Lol And why would I wipe them out. I've never said anything bad about those people, which makes you a fool. If any exterminating (which you referred to) was to be talked about, based on my history, it would be toward Nordics.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:27:36.3813703-06:00
Adam: I'm guessing you're the one with no education.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:28:12.5675879-06:00
Shield You saying racist. First of all, you try to sound white. Then you go around cursing me out, which makes you non-white by that regards. So it's like you're a mixed case, you.
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T22:28:37.7533439-06:00
Shield, and that would be where I strongly object because then you would have us believe that Gaza has no true Muslims. I find no basis for the belief that "true Muslims whom love all people regardless of belief system or ancestry," which is can be refuted in the case of Jews specifically and non-Muslims in general by examining the verses of the Qu'ran and the traditions of Muhammad as substantiated by Islamic history and texts over the centuries and more importantly there are many examples in the contemporary world that would militate against it.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:28:44.8279743-06:00
Emilrose And this has to do with you because? I wasn't even talking to you, so how is this relevant?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:30:09.7801035-06:00
What do you care what I say to Shield? What is he, your new BFF?
Shield says2014-11-22T22:30:13.6490027-06:00
Adam, you are dense as a block of led. Why do you refuse to answer a simple question. What "tribe" would the child of one (the child of a dark skinned person and an Asian) and two (the child of a light skinned person and a native american) belong to?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:30:42.9153531-06:00
Shield I am gonna answer that. Obviously, two different tribes. They look different. Have different languages. Cultures.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:31:03.2917991-06:00
Shield You're the dense one since you have no consistency.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:31:40.3716263-06:00
And I'll ask again: why the obsession with all things Nordic?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:32:42.6172223-06:00
Emilrose Answer that one, and I'll answer your question you gave me right now, promise. What's the purpose of defending Shield? What do you care what I say to him? Is he your new BFF or something?
Shield says2014-11-22T22:32:57.9836163-06:00
David,the fundamental belief of Islam is that God is one and indivisible that God permeates reality, that all things are divine as they are the hand of God. Why would a Muslim hate a Jew, when the Jew is of God?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:34:45.1115631-06:00
When he said, "I was a humiliation" I was talking to him about intelligent people so WTF does this have to do with you? I fail to see the relevance, unless he's like your new BFF lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:38:55.1233499-06:00
Nevermind, I see he's on your friend list. Anyhows, it's not so much an interest in Nordicism as much as a stupidity America has towards the Jews. Most are really dumb about them.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:39:00.1776851-06:00
Lol, I just agreed with what Shield said in relation to your comments about language--now seriously, why does everything have to come back to Nordic with you?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:40:04.7169579-06:00
Maybe because Denmark and Sweden had some pretty brutal empires -- like what they did to Greenland and Finland historically.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:40:47.2547123-06:00
Adam, I am consistent. Point out my so called inconsistency. And for the record, I am white as wonder bread. I don't know why you are assuming otherwise, unless it is based on false stereotypes regarding your false science of races. You are a racist, a person whom believes in race and discriminates based on the categories of race conceived. You are the inconsistent one. You say that every person belongs to a "tribe." So then why would the child not belong to four tribes? What if the dark skinned grandparent was the child of a dark skinned man and an indian? And the native american grandparent was the descendant of a native american and a middle easterner? Would the child belong to six tribes? Is this not how we all are? If we all belong to numerous tribes, then why do our tribes matter? The fact is: we are all genetically diverse, whether you like it or not, and we cannot be any longer, if we ever could have been, categorized into such narrow notions of race. Race does not exist.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:43:21.2403381-06:00
Your inconsistency is this: you act like you're intellectual, yet you curse. Which one is it. Are you an intellectual who shies from profanity, or are you someone who uses profanity on a daily basis? Lol I could care less but you put on a front of being one thing and then do another which is funny.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:44:03.7965925-06:00
How exactly does America being "dumb about them (Jews)" relate to the Nordics though? Likewise, Denmark and Sweden having brutal empires is also pretty irrelevant--at least from the outset.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:45:07.5831235-06:00
Because most don't know what Israelis are. They assume Israelis are another race seperate from white. In reality Israelis are amongst the whitest of the Europeans, along with the Nordics and Russians (which are really Nordic).
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T22:46:26.0219347-06:00
@Adam2 Profanity and integrity are two unrelated concepts.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:47:13.0221665-06:00
Atheist-Independent That's not the issue. He puts on a front as though he ain't a profanity-filled person, but then he curses at me, which makes no sense. Lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:47:44.2373663-06:00
He uses scholarly intellectual language in the beginning, then goes onto cursing lol
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:51:12.2450995-06:00
Adam: Russians are again ethnically diverse; a portion actually have Asian heritage.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:52:27.4049359-06:00
Adam, you are quite sensitive considering I haven't actually cursed at you. I said "what the fvck," and "jesus fvcking Christ." I fail to see how either of those exclamations violate my consistency in discussion. I haven't even violated my integrity, as I have not actually cursed at you. I did call you "racist scum," but that's only the truth, as you are in fact racist, and being racist does in fact make you scum. If the truth hurts you, then I hope you fix yourself.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:52:46.1880823-06:00
Yes, but what does the term "Russian" from? The RUS people who were either Swedish or Danish who carved out violently the land that is now Russia. There is nothing Asian about the Russians themselves, but rather the indigenous folks of that land that were violently oppressed.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:53:35.5292625-06:00
And many Israelis (whether Jewish or not) can trace their roots to mostly Middle East. I have friends, some of whom are Jews, that are more ethnically eastern than European. This is mainly the "Mizrahi", which constitute a recognisable part of Israeli society.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:53:37.2452405-06:00
Shield You didn't hurt me, and quite frankly, I could care less what you think of me. You just don't make sense, okay?
Shield says2014-11-22T22:54:14.0919681-06:00
Most of Russia is on the continent of Asia, so I'd say Russia is very much Asian.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T22:54:26.1086443-06:00
Untrue. The Russians are the mixture of the Germanic Norsemen who arrived from Scandinavia and peacefully settled in Russia with the Slavs.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:55:05.8116623-06:00
Shield Do you not read properly. I just said that Russia descends from the Rus. Typical of Americans with their simplistic minds. Lol You been watching too much football, perhaps?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:56:18.7591327-06:00
Russia could be on the Asian continent. So is Israel. The both of them aren't considered Asian as far as I'm concerned.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:56:52.4403963-06:00
Typical of racists to ignore geography and logic.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T22:56:59.7257831-06:00
Atheist-eo, do you mind your poll being trolled like this? ;p
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T22:57:14.0200613-06:00
Actually, there is no Asian continent. It is solely Eurasia.
Shield says2014-11-22T22:57:28.6021235-06:00
And I've never watched a game of football in my life. Typical of prejudice minds to assume otherwise.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:57:30.3649687-06:00
Atheist-Independent Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, since when did they did live peacefully with the Slavs? Last time I checked the Rus violently conquered that area. And the Slavs of Eastern Europe hate Russia with a passion.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T22:58:22.5015055-06:00
Norse history tells us that Rurik arrived in Novgorod and the Slavs asked him to be their Prince to provide stability in the region.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T22:59:04.4041799-06:00
Funny they don't hate the "evil" Nazis, but they hate Russia. The Rus did not settle there peacefully. The Dark Ages were a time of unprecidently brutality. The Germanic kingdoms such as the Visigoths were brutal. So were the Rus.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:00:01.1740355-06:00
Emilrose He's not saying anything about me.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:00:24.7462399-06:00
Well that contradicts your argument. If the Rus were being no different from other nomadic or semi-nomadic groups at the time, is their "colonization" of Russia bad?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:00:39.2234111-06:00
Atheist-Independent You believe that Denmark didn't have a violent history in Greenland? Lol
DavidMGold says2014-11-22T23:00:51.9024679-06:00
Shield, the Qu'ran disparages Jews and makes a number of accusations. More importantly, Muhammad is the perfect example of human conduct and that conduct was to ethnically cleanse Yathrib (a predominantly Jewish city) of all it's Jews by attacking and expelling two of the Jewish tribes and committing genocide against the third. He would then attack the exiles at Khaybar. The first Caliph would then expel what remained at Khaybar. That's why those on the Gaza Flotilla would shout "Khaybar, Khaybar, Ya Yahud! Jaish Muhammad Sawfa Ya'ud!"
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:01:05.1200751-06:00
That is entirely unrelated.
Shield says2014-11-22T23:01:09.7798387-06:00
Putting quotations around the word evil when using it as an adjective upon the word Nazis only makes you to be an exhibition of lunacy.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T23:01:47.6561531-06:00
Atheist-Indepedant, not quite correct: Russians have in fact (I'm not claiming all) been found to have Mongolian Tatar blood. While obviously this is mixed with much Germanic heritage.
komododragon8 says2014-11-22T23:02:04.0359431-06:00
Atheist: I agree
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:02:35.0407807-06:00
With what?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:03:04.4007335-06:00
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:03:16.8342523-06:00
According to this the Rus were brutal
Shield says2014-11-22T23:03:20.8903563-06:00
David, I will end my inclusion in that argument, as I am not a Muslim, and thus I cannot argue it. I stand by my stance that Islam is an inherently peaceful, tolerant religion.
komododragon8 says2014-11-22T23:04:01.1237879-06:00
With the fact that this is unrelated.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:04:13.3077003-06:00
I do not argue with that. You still have not addressed my main point, however.
Emilrose says2014-11-22T23:04:32.7769995-06:00
Adam: I didn't mean you, I meant the whole poll.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:04:35.5004098-06:00
What main point?
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:04:52.5739071-06:00
Almost everything Adam2 says is unrelated :P It makes for interesting discussions though.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:05:24.6795303-06:00
"Well that contradicts your argument. If the Rus were being no different from other nomadic or semi-nomadic groups at the time, is their "colonization" of Russia bad?"
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:07:32.6340111-06:00
Atheist-Independent Haha real funny (sarcasm), but seriously. I don't think you can say Germanics were always nomadic. They had some brutal empire/kingdoms. The Visigothic Kingdom was quite vicious The Ostrogothic Kingdom was vicious The Vandals were vicious Danelaw (which was Danish conquest of Britain) was vicious Hardly nomadic. These were states carved through conquest I believe the land of Rus was something like this.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:08:33.3505604-06:00
Many of the Germanic tribes had organized empires. Only the Celts really were nomadic.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:09:31.9278094-06:00
Just a tasty side note: none of them were Christian. The Vandals, Ostrogoths, Visigoths were not Christians at all, and yet they were very vicious. Those were not nomadic.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:10:22.4911663-06:00
So your saying you have to be Christian to not be vicious?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:13:10.7930034-06:00
Atheist-Independent No, just saying that Catholics weren't really the violent ones. And anyways Germanics were not really a nomadic people. Many of them carved out some pretty powerful kingdoms and empires through conquest -- Rus, Vandals, Ostrogoths, Visigoths to name a few.
Shield says2014-11-22T23:14:03.1120231-06:00
According to Adam, one must not be white, must not be a fan of football, must not be american, must not be Jewish, must not be Nordic, and must be Christian. Otherwise, they are useless bags of water, unless a bag of water has a use.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:14:12.4278132-06:00
If you think Catholics were not violent you need to learn a bit more about European history.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:15:09.3202838-06:00
Disregard Shield. He knows not what he's talking about. Just because I criticize countries doesn't make me a hater.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:15:43.5005971-06:00
I constantly criticize Denmark, Britain, and Sweden -- does that make me hateful. Have I ever called them "Huris," "crackers" and such insults? I don't think so.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:16:45.4930508-06:00
I have said "white boy" but jokingly. This guy doesn't know what's he saying.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:17:20.6910891-06:00
"Huris" is a slur for Danes. "Silver tip" is a slur for Swedes. Never have I used these terms.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:17:46.7281567-06:00
I criticize Israel.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:18:20.1910147-06:00
While I like things about the Nazis, I've never been as hateful as Hitler or Mussolini were. Those are hardcore guys. I'm not. I know there are good people of all races. So shut it.
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:19:31.8436519-06:00
Please enlighten us on the positive influences of the Nazis. I'm intrigued.
Shield says2014-11-22T23:19:44.1575602-06:00
I direct you all to Adam's second comment on this very poll: "Sinful races got what they deserved in the old Testament. Such as white folks, tribe of Dan."
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:19:59.7527675-06:00
Hitler and Mussolini were deuces. I'll never be someone like that cause I don't got the heart to be like that. Anyhows, Atheist, what I was saying was that the Rus were similar to the Germanic kingdoms that were established violently in the Mediterranean out of conquest.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:20:27.9894915-06:00
Shield Yes cause that's the Old Testament, pal. God took care of business.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:20:47.3651883-06:00
Shield Nothing on me. Be lucky we live in the times of the New Testament.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:21:19.0340003-06:00
There were evil races in the Old Testament that hated God and his commandments.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:22:08.9705036-06:00
You thru. And yes Israel got punished by God too.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:22:15.8344156-06:00
You through?
Shield says2014-11-22T23:22:54.6155184-06:00
Here is the combination of his twenty fourth and twenty fifth comments: "DavidMGold, why don't you shut your mouth? Redneck."
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-22T23:23:05.2883247-06:00
You still have not enlightened me on the positivity of the Nazis.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:23:48.4504282-06:00
Shield cause he's been a jerk to me. Are you through? And yes that's what is
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:24:02.4481903-06:00
Shield is gonna wave his white flag folks lol
Shield says2014-11-22T23:27:16.9105556-06:00
Here is number fifty, regarding America: "DavidMGold, what have you contributed? Bar fights? Womanizing? Getting high on steroids? Military wars with no purpose than to rob? At least Italy, Spain and Japan are modernizing and leaders in technical advances. Israel, Denmark, Sweden and Britain are still in the same old-fashioned condition they are since WWII."
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:28:22.1636495-06:00
Shield: Truth about countries and an insult towards Northern Europeans. Still no sign of genocide, yet? Give up? Willing to kiss my behind and wave your white flag?
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:29:43.9721471-06:00
Shield I told you I'd win with each comeback. Are you through?
Shield says2014-11-22T23:29:56.6396719-06:00
Sixty seven: "Shield, if I were to talk about exterminating, it would be towards whites, not Native Americans or Asians. I mean really, now?"
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:30:41.4083338-06:00
Shield Shield, given a case of revenge towards whites for the past, I WOULD speak of it. Doesn't mean that I ever clearly showed intent or desire to.
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:31:09.2283331-06:00
Folks, Shield is the loser in this battle with me. Lol I think he just waved his flag of kissing my behind lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-22T23:31:55.5615211-06:00
Whatelse do you have, Shield. Or does this mean you're the loser in this fight ready to kiss my behind for mercy? Lol
Emilrose says2014-11-23T05:05:51.4719249-06:00
Really? Israel has contributed huge amounts and is in no way in an "old-fashioned condition", quite the contrary.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T05:21:06.6961176-06:00
And dilara: after doing some additional research I can quite easily see that the "khazar" cinnection is a myth as it's doubtful they even converted in the first place! Not only is your logic flawed but evidently your ability to establish fact from fiction is too.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T05:21:40.1576886-06:00
Emilrose says2014-11-23T05:28:47.6694538-06:00
Another contradiction, you also claim that Palestinians have the same genetics as the Jews living in Israel now: how can that be the case if the Ashkenazim has no Hebrew origin and is Khazar?!
atheist-eo says2014-11-23T08:43:52.8709390-06:00
People only defend Israel because they're Jews, instead of seeing that Israel has 1.8 Million Palestinians imprisoned in Gaza and killing them, just like the Nazis did with the Jews.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T08:46:58.8361548-06:00
Don't compare Israel with the Nazis.
atheist-eo says2014-11-23T09:39:46.4859674-06:00
I already did, and it's appropriate.
DavidMGold says2014-11-23T09:56:15.5357270-06:00
Atheist-eo, you are a shameless propagandist and apologist for genocide and Jew hatred. Hamas was founded explicitly on the goal of destroying the state of Israel and exterminating the Jews just as the Nazis. Haj Amin al-Husseini was organizing and encouraging the murder of Jews before there was a state of Israel and ultimately was forced to flee to Fascist Italy where Mussolini supported his answer to the "Jewish Question" giving him a large sum of money before he went on to Nazi Germany to be received by Adolf Hitler who quietly informed him of the Holocaust. It is astounding that you can ignore their historical tie to Nazi Germany, the Arabic version of Hitler's Mein Kampf being a bestseller (My Jihad no doubt), and even some of them adopting his name. You make no mention of their calls to genocide and jihad, but you would have us believe that responding to 4,000 rockets and mortars fired into their country with their stated aim of "killing Hebrews" and the construction of vast and elaborate tunnel networks to infiltrate Israel as well as cover the movement of rockets and mortars to be fired into Israel even admitting, for example the deaths of 160 children in the process of constructing them leads you to accuse the very victims of the holocaust and of the Islamic genocide as being Nazis because unlike the victims of ISIS, the victims of Boko Haram, the victims of Sudanese Janjaweed militias, etc. Israel has been able to defend it's people from destruction.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T10:06:39.6765302-06:00
Adam2isback The Nazis were not evil, that's the difference. The comparisons between Israel and the Third Reich are comical. They're not the same.
DavidMGold says2014-11-23T10:09:28.9490910-06:00
The Nazis were deplorable and demonstrably evil as is the case with Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and the other proxies the Islamic World uses to wage genocide against the state of Israel.
atheist-eo says2014-11-23T10:21:42.2844734-06:00
Do I really have to say it again? People only defend Israel because they're Jews, and they defend it with nonsense. BOTH Israel and Hamas want to destroy each other, the difference is that Israel is much more successful at extermination.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T10:36:25.3919166-06:00
The Jews don't believe in genocide. They believe in exploitation, oppression. The Nazis and Italian were genocidal gangstaz
DavidMGold says2014-11-23T10:37:17.6908966-06:00
Atheist-eo, quit avoiding the details of the history and the reality facing the state of Israel and the Jewish people with your added emphasis that couched antisemitism that only Jews defend Israel. We would hope and pray that Jews support the state of Israel from the relentless effort by the Arab and larger Islamic World that have relentlessly sought it's total destruction. Fortunately, the Jewish state has mostly adopted the motto of never again and refuses to remain passive in the face of extermination. The nonsense would be those casualty figures you rely upon even though my first rebuttal noted the many guidelines issued by the Hamas interior ministry, which you so casually gloss over. You seem to operate under the impression that being militarily able to defend yourself against attempted extermination and terrorism it the moral equivalent of genocide and terrorism. That's nonsense. Your myopic obsession mirrors the broader world opinion, which is impotent and largely unconcerned with ISIS in Syria and Iraq, as well as the decades long Islamic genocide in Sudan, the mass murders being carried out on a daily basis by Boko Haram, the continual Jihad over Kashmir, and the many other conflicts with Jihadists around the world to which you could care less and could hardly place on the world map.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T10:56:29.6647946-06:00
Athiest-eo, that goes beyond being offensive. Over 11 million people (Jews and non-Jews) in the holocaust. The Nazis are responsible some of the most heinous war crimes.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:00:35.4646970-06:00
Clearly you have absolutely no idea what the term "genocide" constitutes and what the Nazi's were responsible for. Try getting your facts right and using your words a little more carefully.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:02:01.6257062-06:00
And btw, non-Jews defend Israel. Even *some* Arabs and Muslims have come out in defence of it.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:03:16.7260318-06:00
Emilrose I know what genocide is.
Shield says2014-11-23T11:03:36.5385398-06:00
Adam2isback: "The Nazis were not evil..." I think I need not say anything. You have brought shame upon yourself already. Goodbye, sir. I hope you have a great day, maybe.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:05:05.8196290-06:00
Shield amongst white people maybe, but not other race
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:05:19.7679997-06:00
But the amount of f--ks I give about how white people think of me: none.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:06:33.2421157-06:00
I dare the Wimpy Klutz Klan (WKK) to come after me for saying I love the Nazis. They don't got the cojones to.
DavidMGold says2014-11-23T11:07:57.3244377-06:00
Adam2isback, your lack of shame is apparent.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:09:37.4745117-06:00
DavidMGold The Wimpy Klutz Klan don't got the courage to try after me, cause I'll kick their a-- if they try to lynch me.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:09:47.2222437-06:00
Adam: once again, I meant atheist-eo. He compared Israel to the Nazis--which is deeply insulting to all relatives, victims and survivors of the holocaust. Moreover, it's factually inaccurate.
DavidMGold says2014-11-23T11:10:02.4964305-06:00
As you can, sometimes all you need to do is give someone enough rope and they will hang themselves.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:11:04.3492410-06:00
DavidMGold I'm gonna hand myself? The Klan will kiss my behind before that ever happens. Lol I think I need to wash my behind, cause it's about to be kissed by a bunch of Klansmen lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:11:17.0236575-06:00
And I steal their women too lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:12:09.5090485-06:00
Whops, sorry not kiss my behind, I'm thinking of "Braveheart" (which I don't care for) for some reason. I need to clean my throne. It's about to be bowed down to by a bunch of Klansmen. They'll bow down to me for mercy before I ever hang myself. Lol
DavidMGold says2014-11-23T11:13:21.1592408-06:00
Adam2isback, if you had bothered paying attention the remarks were with regards to atheist-eo, but you had to chime in and assure us of your love for the totalitarian mass murderers that resulted in a world war with the systematic destruction of millions of people.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:17:29.7289031-06:00
That's better than repressing a group of people (black and Hispanics) rights for 100s and 100s of years. And the fact that whites barely apologize for that. That and other things.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:22:05.3593202-06:00
@DavidMGold, exactly. Instead of taking the intelligence to "look" at other comments; he automatically jumps to the conclusion they're about him. I find atheists-eo Israel-Nazi comparison more offensive than anything--given how absolutely brutal the Nazis were. Israel has provided aid to the Palestinians and even allows injured Palestinians to cross the border AND get treated in its hospitals. People make these completely false conclusions and they've most likely never even visited the place.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:26:35.8442524-06:00
Better?! Nothing the Nazis did was "better". I'll reiterate once again: over 11 million people were killed, at least 6 million if which were Jews alone. Seriously, do you ever a actually make any logical assessments?
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:28:22.5000850-06:00
Emilrose Do you? You couldn't even get your thing about tomboys right? Anyhows, try being a black man or a Hispanic or an Italian or a Spaniard during segregation in America or in Britain or in Denmark or in Israel today, and then we'll talk.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:28:58.1612278-06:00
What the USA, Denmark, Britain, Israel have done in their history is evil, especially their mistreatment of immigrants who come to those countries seeking work.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:29:31.3420024-06:00
Or are you gonna give me the nonsense that the strong trample the weak, and too bad?
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:41:07.4870712-06:00
Seems pretty obvious that in the U.K immigrants have been very much welcomed, particularly considering its capitalistic history and the fact British society is so diverse now. As for Israel--it only has a short history as a state. I can't see any evidence for any real mistreatment of people immigrating, either.
heyfur_1213 says2014-11-23T11:41:48.5261512-06:00
Emilrose and David, You guys are wasting your time. Really, is it worth it ? He's obviously just enjoying messing with your heads, and you're falling right into his troll trap. Use your time for something that deserves it, not a conversation that isn't getting anywhere.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:42:03.1587636-06:00
And FYI, as far as I knew "tomboy" meant a boyish girl, at least that's what the mainstream definition is!
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:44:14.2699625-06:00
Heyfur_1213 I'm not messing with anyone's head. And I'm not a troll. Take a guess.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:45:09.9789909-06:00
Here's how I feel about any white country complaining about oppression https://www.Youtube.Com/watch?V=Dcr8dm9Prkk
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:45:38.7012002-06:00
Like Carlin said, what the f--k do white people got to be blue about?
DavidMGold says2014-11-23T11:45:52.3028761-06:00
@emilrose, I agree completely and find it completely abhorrent that atheist-eo can libel the Jewish state, which as you pointed out is home to the survivors and the families of survivors of the Holocaust by distorting and twisting the truth that Hamas, which is ever bit flamboyant in their rabid Jew Hatred and explicit declarations of genocidal intentions willing to carry out all manner of what we typically regard as war crimes in the pursuit of it can be spun into an accusation against the Jewish state for proactively defending itself from the unrelenting campaign that no other nation on earth would be expected to endure. My own views, in all fairness, are in line with Moshe Feiglin on these matters but the Kerem Shalom crossing did remain open during the operation in Gaza permitting allowing people in Gaza to leave or seek humanitarian assistance as well as the 111 trucks sent into Gaza (smaller number because of Hamas rocket fire) carrying 2,190 tons of food and other trucks carrying 8 tons of humanitarian aid. He doesn't mention Israel sent 4.58 million liters of diesel for the power station in Gaza Strip and 1.73 million liters for UNRWA, 9.8 million liters of fuel, 4.26 million liters of gasoline for transportation, and 4,843 tons of gas for domestic needs. That doesn't include the 86 infrastructural repairs: 55 electrical repairs; 18 water supply repairs; 6 sewage repairs; 7 communication repairs all done under extraordinary threat for a people that would see Israel destroyed and the Jewish people exterminated. He won't mention the attack by Hamas to shut down the crossing either. I have a video of a woman from Gaza who brought her son to Israel to receive a life saving operation and she expresses her "gratitude" by joyfully explaining her desire for him to become a shahid, a martyr to die for allah.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:46:00.2913234-06:00
Germany and Italy complaining is different though, but then again I don't consider them white.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T11:56:48.2914156-06:00
Adam: your obsession with race just goes beyond illogical. @heyfur, I agree. Not that I'm allowing him to "mess" with me as I can identify with the fact that he's a troll..A pretty blatant one at that.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:57:30.1144794-06:00
Emilrose If you don't allow me to mess with you, then why do you reply to me? Lol
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T11:57:48.6888445-06:00
Emilrose Clearly you do give a f--k.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T12:02:17.8683902-06:00
And you were the one who called me an unintelligent black boy, but typed "white boy" by mistake.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T12:05:47.7615281-06:00
Actually I started off by responding to atheist-eo comments--which in my opinion definitely warranted it. You're the one who in incorrectly assumed it was a response to you.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T12:12:43.9975628-06:00
Emilrose The whole "Nazis and Italian Fascists were genocidal gangstaz" was not a response to you in the first place. Lol
Emilrose says2014-11-23T12:18:39.5913181-06:00
@DavidMGold, I completely agree. It is an absurd thing for atheist-eo to say. Even if one does disagree with Israel there's other (more objective) ways they can define that opinion. For example, people are entitled to question statistics and other such things but to actually claim that Israel is alike to the Nazis is astounding; and totally unproven. As for Israeli aid into Gaza, again it's something that gets entirely overlooked. No other countries that are engaged in deep-rooted conflict with another place, or rather "governance" would go to such lengths to assist the people of that side. Even when violent terrorists surface out of Gaza and over 4500 rockets get sent into its territory; Israel still continues to provide assistance.
Emilrose says2014-11-23T12:20:31.3681841-06:00
Did I say it was? I was referring exclusively to atheist.
Adam2isback says2014-11-23T12:35:02.0109077-06:00
"Actually I started off by responding to atheist-eo comments--which in my opinion definitely warranted it. You're the one who in incorrectly assumed it was a response to you."
jackkenny25 says2014-11-23T16:23:38.6313522-06:00
You cannot punish Israel for defending themselves from Palestinian terrorism. Do you think America wouldn't retaliate if Canada bombed us?
Shield says2014-11-23T21:55:03.4445792-06:00
Emilrose says2014-11-23T22:14:41.5539243-06:00
Atheist-Independent says2014-11-23T22:23:40.4090028-06:00
Are we still posting on this poor guy's poll?
Shield says2014-11-23T22:24:45.0258596-06:00
No :3
Leo.Messi says2014-11-26T11:59:09.3546486-06:00
I agree that "if you terrorize a people that have been terrorized for a millennia, expect them to retaliate". A few groups of Christians were severely anti Semitic. Martin Luther, founder of the Lutheran and Protestant churches, reveals a part of his anti Semitic behavior in this statement-"First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly ­ and I myself was unaware of it ­ will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know. Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God. Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. (remainder omitted) Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord." Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], "You are Peter," etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach. Fifth, I advise that safe­conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home. (...Remainder omitted). Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping." And then-200-300 years later came a real genocide- the holocaust. 6 million Jews were murdered-1.6 million of them children. And it was just because they were jewish. So-I again say " if you terrorize a people that have been terrorized for a millennia, expect them to retaliate".
Adam2isback says2014-11-27T11:35:50.3132418-06:00
The both of you, Emilrose and Shield, can kiss a dead dear's a--.
Shield says2014-12-04T10:30:24.5539345-06:00
dontdebateme says2014-12-14T15:05:43.7089545-06:00
If you look at the exact statistics, the number of men killed is disproportionally large compared to woman and children. Some statisticians suspect that the Palestinian government exaggerated the number of civilians killed - so lots of them were Hamas terrorists. Additionally. The Israeli missiles were shot by the automatically programmed Iron Dome system which targeted spots where missiles were being shot from. So... Hamas terrorists were firing from UN schools! This is by far the worst crime.
Dilara says2015-02-15T11:12:30.7505703-06:00
Well said Scorpio 360
DaSqueaky says2015-03-20T08:36:27.4369819-05:00
Actually Israel was part of Palestine but after World War 2 we wanted a puppet in the middle east so we made Israel and transported a lot of Jews there and a lot of times without their own consent.
Chrisdz says2015-04-27T20:41:17.6762280-05:00
@lilliepearce-debate.Org That is blatantly false, It was palestinian land until 1919 when a british minister named Balfour decided that there should be a state for the jews in the holy land. He ignored the fact that their 9 arabs for every jew in Palestine
BIGC says2015-05-12T22:10:26.3949922-05:00
Most people have no clue what Israel have done..... And that is nothing! They have committed no war crimes, but on the other hand Hamas has many, many times. But what has the EU, US (Obama) Red Cross and so many others plastered all over the news..... That Israel is so bad and how they have killed so many people, which they have killed terrorists and like all other wars, innocent people have been harmed, but they have only been firing into churches houses, etc. with Hamas military in it. Which by the way Hamas has been firing from residential areas (which is a war crime!) Israel has been fighting for there lives and has been completely justified in all there military actions.
GOPLOVER says2015-08-20T20:56:56.4862114Z
Screw palestein
en1gma says2016-01-06T00:41:38.9805790Z
Irrefutably, what has been going on for the longest time ever is genocide. I am not defending Hamas or Hezboullah, as they are just as guilty as the IG, however, to kill innocent civilians as a way to justify a "war on terrorism" is in fact a major blunder. Those innocent civilians had nothing to do with Hezboullah or Hamas.
Creativeprog says2016-10-22T18:00:32.2282431Z
The Gaza War of 2014 demonstrates just how much the Israel military strives to protect human life—even the lives of its enemies. The Israeli military even aborted many operations that were strategically necessary in order to prevent Palestinian civilian casualties. (https://www.Idfblog.Com/blog/2014/08/18/how-the-idf-gets-real-time-intel-to-abort-strikes/) "Israel takes every measure to avoid civilian casualties," said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. "Hamas deliberately targets our children, and they deliberately place their rockets next to their children. Despite this reality, and it’s a very difficult reality, Israel will continue to do everything in its power to avoid civilian casualties. "http://www.Israelemb.Org/washington/NewsAndEvents/Pages/IDF-minimizes-civilian-casualties.Aspx Hamas-officially designated a foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. state department-instigated the war by launching hundreds or rockets at Israeli towns for months on end. Http://m.State.Gov/md123085.Htm The pressure that Israel already faces with outside threats and terrorism makes it hard for the country to do nothing but take action in order to ensure civilian safety with doing the least amount of damage to innocent people.

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