Masked men without insignia's, idnetical to the Crimean soldiers, in eastern Ukraine. Putin denies. Believe him?

Posted by: Jifpop09

Who can believe this idiot anymore? He can tell a lie and half of this worlds idiots believe him. Then he has the audacity to claim they are US agents, even though they are in Soviet Uniforms and equipped with Russian Assault rifles. Plus, he had no proof to back up the claim.

  • No, this is about the 12th time he has been internationally accused of lying. Don't trust a former soviet KGB agent.

  • Yes, I am mindless and listen to RT on a regular bases. Or, I have a good reason in the comments.....

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  • Really guys. In case you didn't know, that other picture is him after he stole the Superbowl ring and denied having it, and then a week later he says he "found it", even after we had a tape of him pocketing it. The proof that the troops are Russian is without a doubt at this point. They are supplying rebels with guns and armor, while pretending like their neutral. Worst part? They said they will protect ethnic Russians AGAIN. I have an interesting theory on why the attacks are centered in Donetsk, but I'll say it in the comments.

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Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:27:24.2806491-05:00
Here's my theory on why Russian agents have only been organizing rebels within Donetsk. Its quite obvious that Russia invaded Crimea for the oil, port, and fleet. Petroleum was their second largest export, and it relied 100% on Crimean shipping. Now that they control it, they are no longer dependent. That leaves them with their second largest export, minerals. Donetsk, is Ukraine's biggest mining region and Russia's only mineral competition. The fact that 75% of the attacks were in Donetsk, not including the fact that all the Donetsk attacks were aided by Russian agents. The Duma has formalized it would be open to secession referendums. Am I wrong, or will this be another repeat?
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:35:29.3814315-05:00
Another attack in Donetsk as we speak. WTF? Organized by more suspected Russian Soldiers, and this time a military air force base.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:40:09.8711567-05:00
While you were busy kissing Putin's ass, the cities of Slaviansk, Horliva, and Kramatorsk have been taken by "rebels". Using that word lightly as every major intelligence agency identifies them as Russian.
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T14:46:20.2455270-05:00
Hopefully Putin will notice what is going on in Eastern Ukraine and send troops to help. To bad he is to busy defending himself from Western lies.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:46:48.5629124-05:00
You. Are. An. Idiot
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:47:49.8825524-05:00
The troops are there, confirmed by nearly EVERY agency. Your just being a raging idiot and a brain dead pawn of Putin.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:49:59.3305226-05:00
Currently 10 cities have fallen under tactical and military support from the Russian government. People are dying, but your to blinded by a hate for liberalism to see reality and that the BOP has been far filled.
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T14:51:51.9792290-05:00
People die in revolutions, but there sacrifice will not be made in vein. Eastern Ukraine will join Russia!
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:54:30.0294705-05:00
Nothing is worth a dead soldier. Contrary to what anyone will tell you. The value of a life is worth more then ideological and realpolitik borders. A soldiers death is only ever just when he fought to protect people from pain and suffering. As far as I can see, these rebels are mindlessly killing people and causing destruction over something as pointless as government. Take note my friend, nothings worth dying for then another.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:56:41.4135127-05:00
True freedom is found within yourself. There are people out there living under a dictator, who feel more free then some Americans. Now this is a little philosophy tidbit, but freedom is earned and not provided. Not saying you should kill people to earn freedom (that cost is to high"), but you are only as free as you choose to be.
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T14:57:32.3790394-05:00
That's just your point of view.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T14:59:52.8830562-05:00
As you are a christian, I will give you god's point of view. Jesus himself said to accept persecution, and accept the rule of others. Never fight back. Hint: Can't deny Jesus son
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T15:01:42.5266429-05:00
And frankly, no ones even being persecuted. People are dying from a bunch of stupid college "rebels", who wish to change their country with violence. Ukraine's a democracy. Solve the problem democratically, and not with bloodshed.
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T15:19:48.0518527-05:00
Your right about persecution, but I support the Russians on this because the US has funded so many rebel groups during the Cold War. Now Russia does the same thing we have been doing, but they are in the wrong?
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T15:21:05.9109536-05:00
Yes, they are.....DUH. It doesn't matter what we did, that doesn't make it ok for Russia to do it back. Your logic is faulty, and your support is in technicality, unchristian.
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T15:24:57.7733266-05:00
Well at the end of the day Ukraine is in the east not the west. The East is Putins territory and we shouldn't be getting involved in his business.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T15:25:37.0682279-05:00
Even you can admit your logic sucks. If I killed your father, does that make it ok for you to kill mine? No, and your support is centered around an anti-obama stance. Be realistic son, when people die its no longer about political alliances.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T15:27:33.1686373-05:00
1) Putin does not own those countries. NATO and the UN have made commitments to protect these places from abuse, which Russia is doing. Breaking international law demands a response. 2) Logic is faulty once again. Are you saying we should just banish laws, and allow nations to continue abusing human rights and invading defenseless countries?
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T15:37:10.5022976-05:00
Those counties are in his sphere of influence and if they start falling away he needs to salvage whatever he can. That's how it's been for hundreds of years. It's up to the county that is being invaded to defend its self. Not the United Nations or America. A question I have is if it is against international law to invade a sovereign nation. How did we invade Iraq without breaking it?
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T15:39:44.6614976-05:00
By accepting nothing less then the old social and imperial hierarchy, you are denying change. Its pointless trying to convince you that things are different now, so best of luck in honorary ignorance.
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T15:43:10.7310689-05:00
What's so bad about the way things were? Why do they have to change? And you never answered my question!
Jifpop09 says2014-04-15T15:46:59.3593438-05:00
1) The old order was terrible. Hundreds of Millions were massacred under imperial racism and colonial misdoing. Kind of like what Russia's doing. 2) I don't exactly support America's actions, but I don't see how this is relevant. This is a ploy tactic when in a debate. You counter someones refutation by attacking an unrelated point (learned about this from skeptisysma)
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T15:52:05.7119079-05:00
To rule Russia successfully you need an iron fist!
Rhodesia79 says2014-04-15T15:52:47.5135662-05:00
My question was honest! I just want to know!

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