Opinion on Corporal Punishment?

Posted by: UtherPenguin

The use of physical force (administering physical pain) as punishment, usually as a disciplinary measure.

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evielovesrocknroll says2015-08-29T19:07:14.4029595Z
When I was growing up, I got my ass beat whenever I was misbehaving & I turned out to be a nice, disciplined, & respectful person. Someone else in my family has NEVER gotten a beaten in her life & she's off committing crimes & getting into all kinds of trouble.
triangle.128k says2015-08-29T20:37:39.3065343Z
People can't get more ignorant on this topic. Science has proven against corporal punishment, the only argument you could say that supports it is "personal experience." That's literally like saying "smoking isn't bad because my grandfather lived to 92 years and he smoked cigarettes."
TBR says2015-08-29T20:52:26.1410191Z
Agree with Triangle.128k on this. Every time it comes up, the only argument is "I was spanked, and I turned out GREAT!" Its defensive at best.
TBR says2015-08-29T20:54:00.4748238Z
This doesn't even have anything to do with "how hard" you hit. It is a ridiculous betrayal of the absolute confidence your child has for you.
SamStevens says2015-08-29T21:16:03.7065060Z
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/18/adrian-peterson-corporal-punishment-science_n_5831962.html
Renegader says2015-08-29T22:57:05.9652419Z
You are a piece of sh*t if you hit your kid for any reason. Period
ramm55 says2015-08-29T23:32:09.7415835Z
One can use classical or operant conditioning to teach a child without using violence to instill fear or shame.
ramm55 says2015-08-29T23:34:14.5044518Z
"I got beat up every day at recess, and I'm fine, so people should stop being such bleeding hearts about bullying." and so on, and so on. It makes the entire argument impossible because people refuse to consider that something they were able to tolerate might still not be a good thing. I suspect that some are merely unable to imagine that other people might not cope as well as they do, but I think the majority respond so defensively because they don't want to consider the possibility that maybe they WERE harmed by these things, that they might be different, more successful people if they weren't carrying quite so much baggage.
TBR says2015-08-30T00:45:27.4133326Z
Renegader - ramm55 - Nicely said the both of you.
Varrack says2015-08-30T00:54:28.4872010Z
I think it's fine when done every once in a while, and it's an effective form of discipline when a child is behaving badly. Sometimes no other options work as well as that does.
tajshar2k says2015-08-30T00:55:49.0929177Z
Ya, I agree. I hate it, but sometimes it might necessary . Also the definition is too vague. Simply hitting them lightly on their hand is different that beating them with a belt.
TBR says2015-08-30T00:57:51.3197012Z
I ask you both, why? Why is that your only solution? Children are not idiots, they understand when you are upset. Talk to them. They don't need to be hit.
tajshar2k says2015-08-30T01:01:14.6982049Z
@triangle That wasn't a good comparison. Nobody is saying because he smoked he lived up to 92 years. Being disciplined when younger could help deal somebody become disciplined later in life.
Varrack says2015-08-30T01:02:05.0241275Z
Not all children will simply listen to you. They often don't understand the difference between right and wrong, and need a way to snap out of awful behavior. Coaxing doesn't always work.
tajshar2k says2015-08-30T01:03:07.3465270Z
That being said, I'm 100% against schools administrating corporal punishment. They have no damn right to touch me.
UtherPenguin says2015-08-30T01:04:29.9428363Z
@tajshar2k "They have no damn right to touch me." Now just imagine taking that out of context.
tajshar2k says2015-08-30T01:05:39.5674215Z
UtherPenguin, Thanks for the input.
UtherPenguin says2015-08-30T01:06:34.3560263Z
@tajshar2k You're welcome
realamericanboy27 says2015-08-30T06:54:47.0539618Z
Fifty years ago teens and children all referred to their elders as ma'am and sir. Boys were more worried about impressing the cutest girl in class over picking on the ugliest girl in the class. Respect has gone down the drain in todays youth because of parents who are too sorry to stand up to their kids when they cuss them out and tell them they will call the cops if they ever put a hand on them. Kids need a dominant figure in their lives not to control them but to show them that they are not the hardcore thugs they think they are and there is always someone out there who can put a whooping on you if you do not respect rules or authority. Children now have no fear of adults and look what has happened. What are their consequences if they bully another defenseless child at school they get a time out? Do you raise your voice and they scream stay out of my life and walk off to their rooms? What do you do when they completely ignore anything you say?
ramm55 says2015-08-30T21:53:11.8719742Z
One of the most commonly practiced strategies used by parents to alter long term behavior of their children is corporal punishment, commonly referred to as spanking. But use of the term spanking is problematic in that how caregivers interpret it varies widely, and there is frequent overlap with what pediatricians consider to be abuse. Despite a great deal of evidence showing that spanking is ineffective, is a risk factor for greater forms of physical abuse and can negatively impact the behavioral and cognitive development of children in a variety of ways, it remains a controversial issue in the United States. The American Academy of Pediatrics and numerous other professional organizations have come down firmly against the use of physical punishment by parents, but unlike 34 other developed nations there are no federal laws banning spanking. Why is there bullying in schools, the child is bullied at home. You are born a blank slate. You learn subjectively. If Mom or Dad hit you as a child you feel inferior or shamed, you act out on the weaker. With social media as a buffer, the term"shared responsibility" is even more relevant. As in groups. A group may take the guilt and "responsibility" one should feel when bullying another. To make this less clinical, I was BEATEN as a child. But thankfully I was blessed with a genius IQ and figured out that learning about what made my neurotic mother do what she did was NOT my fault. So I have never touched my child in ange, we discussed his behaviours in the appropriate manner for his age. He is 35 and fine...He did all the normal teenage stuff that made me crazy.
Huntress says2015-08-31T01:10:19.3724277Z
What I really dislike is corporal punishment in schools. The school districts in my area have banned it, so I don't know a lot of stories personally, but my state, Texas, overall paddles a ridiculous number of students each year, and so do many other states. At home, I imagine it's best left to the parents or guardians personal decisions, as long as it isn't obvious abuse. If I'm a parent someday I'm sure I'll have a better idea of what I think, but for now I voted Neutral.
TBR says2015-08-31T01:14:01.1221699Z
Texas still allows paddling Peggy?
Black-Jesus says2015-08-31T01:21:50.0077923Z
North Carolina public schools allow it as along as the parent sign a consent form, but they never use it anyway
TBR says2015-08-31T01:24:36.5979227Z
Yea, I looked it up. Like 19 states still allow this!
Black-Jesus says2015-08-31T01:29:42.7623139Z
Well, like said, it isn't really enforced at all. Technically it is also illegal to have sex in any position except the missionary position in NC, but that law is so blatantly ignored that you could admit to breaking it to a lawyer and (s)he probably won't have a clue why you even said that.
Huntress says2015-08-31T11:34:31.4041752Z
@TBR If you haven't found it I tracked down some data on corporal punishment in schools. It's a nearly outdated by a decade, so it's hard to tell if the number of instances has declined or not. Http://www.Businessinsider.Com/19-states-still-allow-corporal-punishment-2014-3 http://cenlamar.Com/2009/08/12/disabled-students-in-louisiana-are-more-likely-to-be-given-corporal-punishment/ And yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in someone saying, "I was spanked, and I turned out GREAT!" No offense to anyone, but who can be trusted to objectively judge themselves? According to this data, it's true that NC uses it far less than other states. Texas paddled almost 50,000 students in the 2006 school year, but it's percentage isn't the highest because of the large population. Mississippi gets that dishonor.
Huntress says2015-08-31T11:35:32.2925364Z
These comments always do a number on my pretty paragraphs.
Haroush says2015-09-01T11:17:54.3425937Z
It depends if corporal punishment is abused by excessive power.

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