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UtherPenguin says2015-07-02T16:22:07.0195445-05:00
Did they just pass 0bamacare? That's it! I'm moving to Canada!
Scratch says2015-07-02T16:54:19.1479001-05:00
Totally negative is not on the list. Therefore I cannot vote.
tajshar2k says2015-07-02T17:40:50.3957183-05:00
@Utherpengiun No offense, that joke was pretty lame...
TBR says2015-07-02T20:09:28.0238708-05:00
@Texas14 - How did it do either of those two things?
Texas14 says2015-07-02T20:17:11.8517099-05:00
It forces people to buy health insurance. Let the insurance companies compete. That drives the cost of insurance down.
themightyindividual says2015-07-02T21:00:13.5300371-05:00
#TIEBREAKER
TBR says2015-07-02T22:08:58.0309529-05:00
The insurers are still competing, just with more customers.
TBR says2015-07-02T22:10:08.5669403-05:00
To be honest, as I keep saying, I am looking forward to removing them completely when we go to single-payer, but for now insurers are doing very well with the ACA.
Varrack says2015-07-02T22:11:30.0241074-05:00
More customers who were forced to buy into that. Talk about coercion.
Texas14 says2015-07-02T22:15:20.4791410-05:00
@TBR, what we need to do is stop limiting which insurance companies can sell in which states. Right now, the government limits which states the insurance companies can sell in. If you have ten or more companies competing, that makes insurance affordable for everyone and it happens without this horrible mandate that everyone must buy insurance.
TBR says2015-07-02T22:38:33.3918938-05:00
The only limits to who can sell on the exchanges are put by 1) The state 2) complying with the ACAs minimum coverage. Not really a problem with the law to me. As to the mandate, don't buy any pay the penalty.
Texas14 says2015-07-02T22:40:28.4753069-05:00
You should not have to pay a penalty for not buying something.
TBR says2015-07-02T22:40:28.7405120-05:00
My only current objection at this point is still tying insurance to employment. Its a problem for small businesses, and runs counter to the overall plan of breaking apart insurance from employment.
TBR says2015-07-02T22:42:41.6706683-05:00
Well, its tough for me to argue when I really want to move on to single-payer, but... We pay for stuff all the time we have no desire buying. That we have these insurers in the middle makes it look odd, but it is not much different than the new drone I don't want to buy.
Texas14 says2015-07-02T22:52:39.6678506-05:00
Well, I think a mandate is wrong, but I think having more competition in the free market is a good thing, as well as having tax deductions for medical expenses (which is how you'd help people who are lower income). I agree, healthcare shouldn't be dependent on whether or not you have a job, but I believe there are ways that we can solve this using the free market and not the government. Government involvement has only made the healthcare system worse.
TBR says2015-07-06T09:46:55.5773761-05:00
@Texas14 - Tax deductions do nothing for the poor. Most pay no fed tax, and when you are sick, you are sick.
TBR says2015-07-06T10:00:40.3842579-05:00
Capitalism in the healthcare market has really and it detriment HMO i've been awful Looking back I'm just that long ago, most hospitals weren't profit centers. Absurd escalation costs came from many factors, but you can't dismiss the profit motives of everyone in the chain.

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