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"Islamophobia: a word made by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons" - Christopher Hitchens

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Renegader says2015-06-25T19:10:12.1845071-05:00
It's completely true though. Islamist fascists made this word to deflect attention from their ill treatment of women and gays, leftist PC cowards propagate this lie, and then morons buy into it. Obviously some people are hateful to muslims for no reason, but the bottom line is, it's a grand distraction from the problems in this religion that deserve discussion.
Black-Jesus says2015-06-25T20:23:54.1618602-05:00
Leftist PC cowards are the ones that are not propagating this lie. War-crazy conservatives, the ones that want to stay at war, are the ones propagating the lie to justify their militant views
genesis19 says2015-06-25T21:21:30.8502034-05:00
@black-jesus It's not a lie, look how terrible the middle east is.
genesis19 says2015-06-25T21:22:58.7342991-05:00
The middle east is filled with islamist theocracies. The laws in place of many of these countries are very barbaric and just messed up. You can get killed for leaving the religion of Islam. If you steal something, in some countries you can have your hands cut off. Women also have very limited rights, in fact women in Saudi Arabia are not allowed to show their looks in public. They have to hide themselves.
genesis19 says2015-06-25T21:23:47.1782311-05:00
People also get way too offended over anybody saying something about their religion. One guy in Saudi Arabia was sentenced to 1000 lashes for "insulting islam."
genesis19 says2015-06-25T21:24:52.0190785-05:00
Many middle eastern countries are just plain messed up, mainly due to sharia law. Yet some islamists in US have wanted to impose sharia law.
Shield says2015-06-26T02:20:38.6881397-05:00
Genesis19, the phrase "terroristic islamists" is simply a euphamism for the phrase "terrifying muslims," thus you have just demonstrated islamophobia. Id say that would mean you were a coward, but the quote does not claim exclusivity, thus it allows that noncowards also use the word. Though your use of the word "evil" in connection to the euphamism for "terrifying muslims" shows that you may in fact be one of the cowards the quote mentions, as why else would you be fearful of muslims and call them evil out of that fear of them?
Black-Jesus says2015-06-26T10:00:38.5328676-05:00
@Renegader, I was reading the quote wrong, my bad. Anyway, @genesis19, looking at the products of the worst of a demographic doesn't justify fear or hatred of the rest. Tamir Rice was shot down by police for having a toy gun, Trayvon Martin was shot down for looking suspicious, this doesn't make me afraid to walk down the street with tea and skittles, this doesn't make me fear cops if I have a play gun. The Westboro Baptist Church protests soldier's funerals saying they deserved to die, they condemn our entire nation to death and hell for even thinking about allowing gay marriage, and I know plenty of Christians that aren't that extreme; I don't assume that every Christian is. I live in the South, and yet I don't live in fear of bigots, sure I run into one or a group of them every so often, but the Ku Klux Klan used to be an organization that took up almost 3/4 of the white population in my area, hell, the YMCA building just, like, 10 miles away from me used to be a Klan meet, but I'm not afraid of being lynched for talking to a white girl. Some conservatives that I have debated on this issue say "well, their holy book teaches hate; teaches Muslims to kill people of other religions" and I say "So does the Bible!" God instructs Moses to kill all of those who don't keep the Sabbath holy (Exodus 31:12-15), God instructs the children of Israel to kill homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13), he also instructs said children to kill those who disrespect their parents (Leviticus 20:9), and to kill women who are not virgins on their wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21). You could say that these rules don't apply to modern Christians in America because they are taken out of context, but they were still stated by your God in your holy book, and are you really saying that if Israelis where killing people who disrespect the Sabbath, homosexuals, children, and women who didn't wait for marriage you would totally be okay with that? If yes, then you are almost just as bad as the Muslims you claim are evil. And again, you take these quotes from the Qur'an without considering their context, maybe it's not applicable at all in modern times, I can guarantee that 99% of the conservatives I've talked to about this have never read the Qur'an nor looked for any context.
triangle.128k says2015-06-26T23:56:59.4330397-05:00
Black Jesus, no need for the long response. Genesis is just a troll, he probably doesn't mean anything he says.
triangle.128k says2015-06-26T23:58:52.4085863-05:00
And genesis, why is lebanon a relatively free and peaceful country if the majority population is muslim?
Black-Jesus says2015-06-27T07:09:24.4662082-05:00
@triangle.128k, you don't live in the South; I run into people like this in everyday life all the time

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