Overall, is religion in general good for society?

Posted by: Politics2016

  • Yes

  • No.

34% 19 votes
66% 37 votes
  • No Religion is far from good for society it promotes violence against those of different belief and holds back progress as a result of belief!

  • No it's not. While it is true that in history Religion has played a part in the progress in many scientific breakthroughs, in this day and age Science is an entirely separate entity to Religion, with it becoming more of an obstacle of progress with it's countless contradictory views towards branches of science that have the potential to significantly help humanity as a whole. Subjects such as Abortion, Freedom of Sexuality, Freedom of Speech and even Woman's rights have been or are currently the subject of taboo primarily because of people's faith clashing with progress. This has been apparent through history as well. And as somebody who rejects what I see as nonsensical fairy tales, it is clear to me that a huge number of the population more committed to "The Good Book" then work in the scientific community that actually helps save countless lives, while religion held back progress for many years (AIDS and condoms as an example) is a major problem. Do I think Religion needs to be eradicated? No, but I do think it needs to be far less influential in today's society, absolutely.

  • People should learn to think for themselves and not belief anything unless proper investigation and questioning has been conducted. Truth should be universal and so in an objective quest for this we should be coming to the same conculsion if one thinks for him/herself in objectivity. Sience is a good example of this, where in the end one or the other theorie will proof itself. Truth thus is self evident.

  • Hitchens' challenge: name a moral act which could not have been performed without religion. Seriously, good luck. No one has done it so far. Now name an immoral act which is only done in the name of religion: plenty come to mind, such as genital mutilation. The fact you failed the first challenge while the second was easy says a lot about religion and whether it is, on the whole, a force for good or evil.

  • It created an ‘us vs them’ mentality, stifles scientific progress, creates divisions in society, and is historically and presently responsible for a considerable amount of violence and conflict. Nevertheless, the fact that it exists means it must've benefited early humans in some way.

    Posted by: LRC
  • Religion has murder, raped, molested, and destroyed lives. It has led to the gutting of South American and African culture by introducing not only disease, but genocide and poverty as well as slavery

  • 1) Hating on specific groups and people. Some major religions think homosexuality as a disease, some think that those who are homosexual will go to 'hell'. When one becomes religious, they will firmly believe these ideas are true, and will become anti - gay, sometimes leading to violence and/or discrimination. This does not only apply to homosexuality; I simply gave a quick example. There are many other rules in religion that lead to not - so - good actions on specific groups. 2) Terrorism. This may be a radical point, but it would be incorrect to ignore the fact that groups such as ISIS and the KKK have built themselves off religious beliefs. Even when the violence is non - terrorism, it is still violence that was heavily influenced by religious beliefs.

  • Religion, as much as people would hate to admit it, is not good for society. Look what good it did us. Thousands of years of war and millions of innocents dead over some disagreement of what they were told to believe. People should have their own beliefs and not preach them to the whole world. They have a right to believe what they will.

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DiEgO123100 says2016-09-18T16:46:42.1960258Z
@knaveslayer99, list every religion ever and how it promotes violence, then I'll agree with you.
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-18T17:22:06.6973777Z
@DiEg0123100 Hmm Christianity has promoted killing gays, raping and you know led to endless crusades slaughtering thousands of innocent people, Islam pretty much the same promotes killing gays, (not sure about rape) and has had it's own version of the crusade which almost succeed in taking all of Europe. I mean you have ISIS and almost every school shooter has been question I'm not saying these religions are bad I actually don't mind Islam at all but these religions at their core they do promote violence towards people the religion views as "evil" or "wrong" Also Satanism has had cultist rituals happen involving murder and yadda yadda yadda I could go on and I will only if you'd like me to, cause I can name a lot of events.
harrytruman says2016-09-18T18:01:22.9191482Z
@Knaveslayer99 I mean you have ISIS and almost every school shooter has been question I'm not saying these religions are bad I actually don't mind Islam at all but these religions at their core they do promote violence towards people the religion views as "evil" or "wrong" You don't mind Islam? The religion that promotes wife beating (Qur'an 4:34) and countless other things?
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-18T18:09:56.4661645Z
@Harrytruman I don't support Christianity where if my sister gets raped she has to marry the rapist. I don't mind Islam because most Islamic people I've met that are against ISIS and such actually are a lot kinder and nicer than the Christians who I've met who give me a weird look or think I'm sick cause I'm a proclaimed Communist.
DiEgO123100 says2016-09-18T18:46:01.7527201Z
That is not a belief in the Catholic Church. In the Ten Commandments, it says to not commit adultery. Rape is considered adultery, even if not between two married people. It never says you have to marry the rapist. In fact, if the rapist or the victim is married to another, it would be considered adultery to marry someone else if you are already married! What you think of Christianity(the Catholic Church in general) is wrong.
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-18T18:53:24.5243185Z
@DiEg0123100 Huh. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Damn That Islam wife beating compared to raping a virgin and then essentially paying the father for her. Yeah man treat women like objects 10/10 Well played cause you know a Verse from the bible means I'm wrong.
DiEgO123100 says2016-09-18T19:01:19.9746061Z
One, that was Moses making laws for the Jewish people. So why would us Christians follow an ancient Jewish law? Two, not everything that Moses said was in line with what God wanted. Nice grammar and punctuation by the way.
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-18T19:07:17.7207412Z
If you truly followed god's will why would you edit the bible multiple times since it was created? Also yes make fun of my grammar not like it's 5am where I am at all. Of course all Christians go straight to insults don't they especially if someone disagrees with them.
Joaozr says2016-09-18T19:12:20.8260423Z
The problem is that every culture has it's own one. Not only that but they demand one is superior and more thruthful than the other. And that brought wars and all those bad things. So in general i think the idea of Religion is good, but nowdays it's horrible and it should be a thing to put on stand-by so everyone could make an agreement of some sort to respect each other.
DiEgO123100 says2016-09-18T20:38:50.1391345Z
Not my fault I can't control the time. Its your fault for being up at 5 a.M. On a debate website. Us Catholics didn't change the word of God. In fact, we include all 73 books which we believe to be divinely inspired. I guess you could say we edit it, as the publishers fix grammatical errors, spelling mistakes, and translated it to English.
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-18T23:26:20.0226661Z
@DiEgO123100 You have yet to explain to me how something that doesn't promote violence led to countless crusades and murders in the name of God.
DiEgO123100 says2016-09-19T02:39:55.1551216Z
If it promoted violence wouldn't every person who followed the religion commit some sort of act of violence? But only a small percentage do commit an act of violence in the name of God when compared to the rest of that religious population. Other times, religion did just mess up. I admit it. But we should not be judged by the actions of few and of what happened long ago.
ThePostMarxist says2016-09-19T08:34:50.5199972Z
@DiEg0123100 Catholicism- Institutionalised rape and maltreatment of children. The destruction of South American cultures in the name of spreading Christianity, and don't forget the inherent violence of both the Old and New Testament (countless dictatorships and advocacy of fascism as well) Islam- Theocracy, subjugation of women, violence towards non-believers. Inherently violent Protestantism- The KKK, many racist groups are protestant. The Protestant Church also motivated Manifest Destiny and promoted the genocide of the Native Americans, and the inherent violence of Christianity Judaism- Israel treatment of the Palestinians Hinduism- systemic maltreatment of many Muslims in India ~(and vice versa), also an inherently violent religion which glorifies violence Scientology- blackmail, corruption, torture, psychological violence Notice a trend?
YouGotsToBe says2016-09-19T13:13:26.3539961Z
@DiEgO123100 Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. Like you can't get more obvious than that, this is psalm 137:9
YouGotsToBe says2016-09-19T13:18:39.6080201Z
But ehm if you want to know what religions promoted violence I suggest you pick up a history book, or look at Ireland the past decades.. Or look at the middle east in THIS time.. How many millions were slaughtered in South America where litterly you could choose to either convert or die on the spot? Wasn't it debated that slaves were inferior cause they weren't considered human in the eyes of the creator ? Denying this is like those priests who denied the holocaust.. Come on man you're either blind to not see this or you just want to stay ignorant to facts.
DiEgO123100 says2016-09-19T22:52:18.2538368Z
Think about it. 80% of the world's population is religious. If religion promoted violence, wouldn't the world be in utter turmoil by now? Most of the Psalms were written by King David. They were meant as songs asking God, praising Him, or thanking Him. @YouGotsToBe, what you mentioned was an imprecatory psalm. These Psalms were written asking God to bring down curses against the enemies of Israel, or simply warnings against what would happen. Not all imprecatory psalms are justified, such as this one. Some people take religion to the extreme. All those people you're talking about are called extremists.
YouGotsToBe says2016-09-19T22:54:50.8286731Z
@DiEgO123100 you say religious.. People.. 80% of the world.. There should be turmoil.. I don't know what news you read about the affairs of the world but the world seems to be in quite a bit of turmoil
DiEgO123100 says2016-09-21T02:32:23.4320021Z
That was my bad. Poor choice of words. I should've said complete and utter destruction.
DiEgO123100 says2016-10-10T16:20:07.2819885Z
@TheBallisticKnight, we should have their own beliefs but not preach them, so you essentially mean everyone should have different beliefs. Then you go so far as to say everyone should have the right to believe whatever they want. Explain that one.

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