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43% 12 votes
57% 16 votes
  • There is patriotism and then there is nationalism. If you're talking about nationalism, then yeah, i agree.

    Posted by: reece
  • Countries don't really mean much except for what these countries do to the people. I would prefer all humans be treated with dignity and human rights not just some people in some place on the map that we called a "Country"

  • Maybe not a disease but not worth the trouble.

  • It turns into Nationalism. Kinda like what happened with Hitler and the Nazis...

  • Patriotism, no. Nationalism, yes under the right circumstances and when there's too much confidence in government.

  • Nationalism and Patriotism are two entirely different things. Patriotism is the pride in one's country, while nationalism is the belief that your country is superior in every way therefore all authors rare inferior scum.

  • It really comes in handy when watching the Olympics or any sporting event where its nations vs nations win-or-go-home

  • You should be proud pf your country.

  • If you don't like us, then leave!

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reece says2015-07-22T04:37:23.8489867-05:00
A lot of american that think their patriotic, are actually acting as nationalistic.
TBR says2015-07-22T06:44:04.1012722-05:00
Yeah, I have to draw the distinction too. Nationalism has gone awry in the US. Patriotism is not the problem.
Thegreatdebate98 says2015-07-22T07:31:28.2135017-05:00
Patriotism is delusional and Nationalism is detrimental.
reece says2015-07-22T07:36:40.1573875-05:00
@Thegreatdebate98 Patriotism is a pat on the back and Nationalism is to spit in their face. I agree that it's detrimental.
TBR says2015-07-22T07:44:57.0465377-05:00
@Thegreatdebate98 - I disagree. Attachment to your home country, and wishing to make it the best it can be is not any negative. I like politics, and still am not jaded by the system. How? I wish and work for it to improve. This is very apart from "superiority" or xenophobia.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T07:53:50.4736633-05:00
If you think loving your country for giving you freedom and liberty is a bad thing. Something is wrong with you.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T07:54:30.6051724-05:00
@reece Learn the difference between Nationalism and Patriotism.
reece says2015-07-22T08:10:25.4947702-05:00
@tajshar2k patriotism is the support of ones country and nationalism in this context (Right-wing nationalism) is the feeling of superiority over other countries. I know what they are.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T08:15:36.0293636-05:00
So... How would that correlate to Patriotism being a disease? Also, most Americans are about patriotism not nationalism. Americans believe their country is the greatest in the world, and work toward improving it. Nationalism is about forcing the countries values on other people, and generally are violent individuals.
reece says2015-07-22T08:24:51.3070311-05:00
@tajshar2k I think he was actually talking about nationalism. Read what i said in my vote. Believing your country is the best in the world would be considered nationalism. The right-wing says their fighting for freedom and equality in the middle east while they warmonger and blame the Muslims...Sooo...??? I could almost call them Nazis.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T08:38:09.6279925-05:00
Ya, I'm sure Right-wingers are to blame for muslims trying to force their sharia law on other countries. Mind you, this isn't in America, its in countries like Switzerland and Denmark, who had absolutely not role in the Middle East. And we didn't go to the middle-east for freedom, we went to kill terrorists.
reece says2015-07-22T08:40:51.5021074-05:00
@tajshar2k My point was the over generalization of the word "Muslim". You kinda mist my point. It's fundamentalism that's the problem. Wouldn't you agree?
reece says2015-07-22T08:41:16.9301074-05:00
Missed*
TBR says2015-07-22T10:30:44.9627629-05:00
@tajshar2k - I have quotes coming out of... Well plenty from the Bush administration saying just that. That we were "spreading freedom" that it was the mission of America.
TBR says2015-07-22T10:31:47.5814515-05:00
We pounced on a country because we just didn't like them very much. It is a scar that will last, just denying it is not helpful.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T15:34:40.5608094-05:00
@TBR Last time I checked, the Bush administration didn't represent all of America. There still were sane Americans who opposed his BS war, and still is patriotic to the country.
58539672 says2015-07-22T15:42:50.3200544-05:00
@tajshar2k Those sane Americans who opposed the Iraq war got as low as 27% of the US population at one point in time. Many were supportive of the war at its beginning.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T15:45:30.4486699-05:00
Because the Bush administration, lied to the entire public that Saddam had WMDS, and was funding Al-Qaeda.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T15:46:14.0497739-05:00
Again, I do not see how this has anything to do with patriotism.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T15:47:19.3359719-05:00
If anybody wants to debate this, feel free to challenge me next week.
Texas14 says2015-07-22T15:52:27.7951838-05:00
I love my country but I know when it's wrong and will criticize it when it's wrong.
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T15:53:38.8696950-05:00
^Exactly, thats what a real patriot is. Not some ultra-nationalist that some people think.
reece says2015-07-22T15:57:44.0926521-05:00
@tajshar2k nationalism is an extreme of patriotism. You don't need to call it "ultra-nationalist."
tajshar2k says2015-07-22T15:59:33.9453655-05:00
Well, it is an actual word http://dictionary.Reference.Com/browse/ultranationalism
reece says2015-07-22T16:04:32.0229155-05:00
My point still stands. But ultranationalist would probably be more accurate.
sara_ann_dee says2015-07-22T18:46:17.7268123-05:00
Looks like I am on that offensive side of DDO again...
PetersSmith says2015-07-22T20:32:46.7894220-05:00
The DSM says that excessive pride for one's country is not a mental disorder, nor is "patriotism" classified as a pathogen.
TBR says2015-07-22T23:11:52.3215909-05:00
@tajshar2k - It was YOU who tried to say the wars were about terrorism, I am answering that. That is simply revisionist. Bush, the Bush administration, and most supporters were "spreading freedom". "They hate us for our freedom". I AM a patriot. I was out saying "NO". I was out week after week. I was fighting a up-hill battle from those that called me every nasty thing they could think of as they went on their way for some "Freedom fries" "FREEDOM FRIES"!!!!! Its was insane. Don't minimize that tragedy.
TBR says2015-07-22T23:15:31.7472313-05:00
@sara_ann_dee - The poll is a even split. What do you mean?

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