Political Parties are ruining America. (T OR F?)

Posted by: IcySound

True or false?

  • True!

  • False!

76% 19 votes
24% 6 votes
  • Democracy is a scam. http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-334-the-democracy-scam/

  • In their current state they are. Ideally, I would love open-minded independents who vote with the facts only, but in lieu of that I'd go for functioning political parties that can compromise with one another.

  • Two political parties appeal to a lot of Americans, since many identify with either one. Each have broad agendas, which is much better than other countries who have dozens of parties each with narrow agendas. It is virtually impossible for dozens of parties to reach an agreement on anything, while two parties can compromise on various issues and get things done. Also, with many different parties there would be much more contention and most people would be unhappy with a candidate from one party who gets elected because everyone else is pitted against that party.

  • We as a society need politics and political parties to make america stable, we need both republicans and democrats to fix every political issue that comes, if we didn't have politicians, america would just run wild and let foreign countries walk all over us. No, I do NOT think political parties are ruining our country.

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Hanspete says2015-02-05T18:18:48.3011861-06:00
Well yes and no.
IcySound says2015-02-05T18:19:19.8905786-06:00
How so?
YamaVonKarma says2015-02-05T18:35:04.9048049-06:00
The corporations backing them are running America. Corporations of whom the populace could easily ruin if they surrendered their modern luxuries.
miketheman1200 says2015-02-05T18:38:46.4985434-06:00
Varrack, you wish
Varrack says2015-02-05T18:39:41.9702270-06:00
@mike, nice rebuttal.
UtherPenguin says2015-02-05T18:57:00.7742789-06:00
The problem isn't necessarily political parties but the fact that the country bipartisan system, this potentially caused by the style of voting the US has "first past the post" which facilitates the Spoiler Effect where the smaller parties are gradually knocked off the political stage by the larger parties, whether they merge with the stronger party or disintegrate completely it eventually leads to only two parties dominating the stage no matter if the population is satisfied with these parties or not (CGPGREY explains it way better then me: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo ) A solution to this problem could potentially be to adopt the system of alternative vote (example of this is used by Swedish Parliament) This is quite odd however because Canada uses a first past the post system yet we have up to 5 parties in parliament.
Madtomflint says2015-02-06T19:29:57.5085276-06:00
"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution." - John Adams
Madtomflint says2015-02-06T19:31:52.4970454-06:00
Not only do the two major parties prevent smaller parties from having the slightest chance at the primaries, but individuals become entrenched in stupid ideas that are aligned with one party or the other.
Varrack says2015-02-10T17:45:28.6788261-06:00
@Mad, it is better than having a million parties with very narrow agendas all opposed each other and unable to reach an agreement on anything. If we had ten equally sized parties, then a candidate from each party would receive 10% of the vote each, which would be a worse mess.
Madtomflint says2015-02-10T17:53:30.7870013-06:00
@Varrack Well, you may have a point there. I think, if a campaign didn't cost millions of dollars we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Statistically, the candidate who spends the most money usually wins. So you have to have one of the big parties backing you. But I would be happy with three major parties: Rep, Dem and Libertarian.
Varrack says2015-02-10T18:30:15.6652659-06:00
I don't have a problem with that. Though that issue could still apply to 10 little parties (who spends the most money) it's kind of a hard problem to solve.
Madtomflint says2015-02-10T18:46:00.6784253-06:00
It is. But I'll happily admit the electoral college is not my strong suit...

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