Security vs Privacy

Posted by: pozessed

It's obvious if we digitally recorded sound/video everything ever done in our home and had safety/intrusion measures everywhere in our home we would be more secure. Now imagine all of this information is saved on a hard drive in the home. The disks are never erased and the homeowner always has access to everything anyone ever does/says in their home. Reconsider this home mentioned to be the area you live in, and consider the homeowner to be the government of your community. Now please answer the question,

  • Security

  • Privacy

31% 11 votes
69% 24 votes
  • There is no such thing as privacy from my government. They have satellites in space and slews of man power on the ground that could most definitely erase the illusion of privacy. Everything that is written digitally most definitely isn't private unless it's on a closed network, and if someone wanted the information in a closed network bad enough, that person always has the ability to attain it unless it is erased or well defended. I have come to the conclusion that privacy is a privilege anymore and not a right. Therefore, since privacy does not exist unless I continuously spend time and money defending my privacy, I choose security. I wish I had faith and trust that my government wasn't corrupt.

  • Security protects my privacy, but privacy can't protect my security.

    Posted by: yay842
  • There is no privacy given by the US government. It is more an illusion of privacy. The only reason why people are complaining is the illusion is less convincing.

  • Security involves privacy. I mean if you do not have security then who will respect your privacy? It is just common sense...

  • "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

    Posted by: vortux
  • Privacy is essential in every persons life well it should be but, it is not its not anyones place as a government to intrude on someones personal life

  • NSA is guilty of criminal ESPIONAGE, NOT MANNING, according to espionage act: "whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defence with intent or reason to believe that the information to be obtained is to be used to the injury of the United States.."" gov uses nsa info to murder and torture political oppoents, ideological dissadents, gov critisizers, whisteblowers.. gov wants to know everything about everyone so it can punish anyone it doesnt like. totalitarian. gov admits it only collects info beacuse it intends to use it agianst people. everyone team up to sue nsa. fire gov workers who want to fire or press charges agianst people for searching and seizeing gov's property with probable cause of find evidence of gov-crime or gov-misconduct(crime includes gov searching and seizeing non-gov's property at large w.o resonable suspcion). if gov thought spying on everyone was good for national security, gov wouldnt have a problem with publisizeing everything about gov and being 100%transparent, w/o non-gov even haveing to ask. it doesnt, becaues it just wants to punish speech. gov who hypocritically searches and seizies w/o reasonable suspcion is a traitor who betrayed their oath to defend the consitution gov workers who hypcoritically spy on the public at large w/o reasonable suspcion, are the enemy. gov is subject to transparency laws that non-gov isnt subject to its legal to share (gov info that is legally sapose to be published) with the public public sector(gov) is sapose to be the public's employees and be publicly viewable(w some good-reasoned public approved exseptions) non-gov is the private sector- meaning non-gov has the right to privacy. everyone is the public. corrupt gov says: top secret criminal intel gathering programs and gov's classified crimes if exposed put national security at risk.(actually its the oposite, ...its good for national security to expose top secret criminal intel gathering programs. it puts national security at risk for gov to spy on the whole public- it puts criminals at risk of being caught if their crimes are exposed) corrupt gov says: its to keep the country safe.(actually its to keep criminals safe from being legally and rightfully fired and charged) corrupt gov says: were takeing phone records and spying on non-gov at the same time punishing anyone who spys on us. its well known were only collecting info w the intent to use it agianst people, and there's a high chance it will be used to punish people for speech and association-because it happened before(like the irs scandal(punitivly taxed for poltical beleifs), and punishments could get much worse inlcudeing murder torture and imprisionment for diagreeing w gov) w/o liberty your not safe. the only point of saftey is to keep your liberty safe and to be safe from haveing your liberty taken away from you. w/o liberty and freedom, whats there to keep safe?nothing. when we have the freedom to do what we want with our private property and bodies as long as it doesnt touch or endanger others private property w/o their permisison, our property is safe from being stollen/taxed, controlled, kidnapped, restricted, trapped, physcially abused, or murdered. gov's job isnt to collect unnesicary info or search w/o probable cause gov has alot more serious crimes it should be going after(like violent offenders, kidnappers) instead of spying on everyone gov's job is to protect people's right to not have their private property searched or seized w/o probable cause. its gov's job to report and try to stop crime/gov-misconduct, and protect everyone=under the law=not letting some get away w the same type of misconduct you dont let others get away with, =no spying on everyone while at the same time disallowing everyone to spy on you require gov workers report gov-misconduct and gov's activity that is suspected to be misconduct or else get fired and owe wage refund. (exsept in cases where your likely to be punished if you reported-however you must still do whatever you can to report in a safe way allowing criminals to go unpunished puts everyone at risk. require gov workers immediatly investigate reports of gov misconduct and take minor complaints seriously put gov under 24-7live public video survailence(exsept w detailed good reason presented to the public to keep certian info secret). reasons for gov secrets shouldnt be secret. make gov delete all info it illegally collected, and info collected that isnt freely accessble to the public(ex buying info from bussiness's), w/o at least reasonaoble suspision of a crime.

  • because the government shouldnt be allowed to just spy on inocent peoples buisness and see their every move of every moment of the day it violates their right of privacy

  • The same people who are willing to waive all their privacy rights are the same people that will be lined up like a bunch of animals waiting to get their microchip implants.

  • Because my privacy is more important then or security.

    Posted by: noach
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Disquisition says2013-09-18T12:10:18.7999137-05:00
The real question is how much privacy are you willing to give up in order to live securely. It's give and take, you can't have one without the other to some extent. No, we can't regulate how intrusive the government can be but I'd rather have some form of protection than none.
fluffybunnypuff says2013-09-26T07:58:52.3797389-05:00
Privacy=security, w/o privacy your not secure, you cant have 1 or the other, you can only have both or neither. You wouldnt be more secure if your enemy(totaltarian gov)had recording of everything you did. They can tap into about all electronics plus gov-recording and monitoring are built into most electronics.
fluffybunnypuff says2013-09-26T08:04:13.3039684-05:00
Its impossible to give up privacy to be more secure, since giving up privacy always =giving up security. Privacy=protection. Bunnys are safe when hidden, prey are safe when predators cant see hear or smell them. Predators dont want their prey to see them because prey will run away makeing it much harder to catch. Gov is like a lion hideing in the grass, slowly and quietly sneaking closer and closer to its prey(non gov), waiting to pounce on its prey, doesnt want its prey to see it, and wants to be able to see its prey. Its vital for prey, non govs survival to hide from and see predators, gov. Thats why gov classifies everything it does and all its crimes, at the same time spys on entire non gov.
rileyspm88 says2016-02-05T17:18:47.6973771Z
The privacy is more important than security
APKC says2016-04-02T23:24:31.0880899Z
A threat to privacy is inevitably a threat to security too
noach says2017-10-24T15:09:22.3478424Z
Yes yes yes yes yes yes

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