Vote
14 Total Votes
1

No

Babies should be loved no matter what they look like.
8 votes
3 comments
2

Yes

Yes are an English rock band who achieved success with their progressive, art, and symphonic style of rock music. They are distinguished by their use of mystical and cosmic lyrics, live stage sets and lengthy compositions, often with complex instrum... ental and vocal arrangements. The band's current line-up since February 2012 consists of singer Jon Davison, guitarist Steve Howe, bass guitarist Chris Squire, keyboardist Geoff Downes, and drummer Alan White.Squire formed Yes in 1968 with singer Jon Anderson. Squire and guitarist Peter Banks had played together in The Syn and then Mabel Greer's Toyshop. Anderson and later drummer Bill Bruford joined a line-up of Mabel Greer's Toyshop, which evolved into Yes. Keyboardist Tony Kaye completed the first Yes line-up. Their early sets were a mix of original material and cover versions.The 1970s saw Yes release the albums that are widely viewed as their creative peak: The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from Topographic Oceans, Relayer and Going for the One   more
6 votes
3 comments
Leave a comment...
(Maximum 900 words)
BblackkBbirdd says2015-05-28T10:17:01.3950751-05:00
Human genetic engineering doesn't have to just be for aesthetic reasons, it could for instance be used to stop children being born with hereditary diseases.
MechVarg says2015-05-28T10:22:27.5076392-05:00
Learn how to spell
mystery_man43 says2015-05-28T10:23:42.1229042-05:00
@MechVarg Don't be a troll.
mystery_man43 says2015-05-28T10:28:21.2140602-05:00
@MechVarg I honestly think you've made spelling errors in your life as well. It's really no big deal.
Kreakin says2015-05-28T12:50:00.6551890-05:00
OP could have his intellect genetically enhanced, we could then have a literate poll perhaps?
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-28T14:10:09.5758258-05:00
"It's not like they're trying to make babies into unicorns." What in your experience with the human race makes you think this is outside the realm of possibility? I can totally see some idiot naming their kid some funky name and engineering them to look like a whole host of ridiculous and frivolous things.
JS103 says2015-05-28T17:15:03.4570770-05:00
Idk, it could help humanity. But at the same time it could hurt everyone who is not engineered. I would only support it if we engineered them to do great things but not take advantage of everyone else.
Stefy says2015-05-28T21:20:34.6439824-05:00
Only to get rid of disorders or problems. Changing anything innecesary i think is going to far.
Deuterium says2015-05-29T04:40:57.3455700-05:00
"What in your experience with the human race makes you think this is outside the realm of possibility?" I do have enough faith in humanity that i don't believe making babies into unicorns would be legal in the future if at all possible.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T13:00:55.7689085-05:00
You have entirely too much faith in them then.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T13:02:49.0316554-05:00
You've seen people tattoo themselves to look like lizards and then get their tongues forked right? Look at all the radical plastic surgeries people do. That Barbie chick from Russia? C'mon ...
blackkid says2015-05-29T13:03:26.9055837-05:00
Exceptions to the rule do not dictate much.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T13:05:28.2205384-05:00
If a person can be that f'ed up in the mind to do that to themselves, what makes you think they'd not extend things like that to their children if they could, If it became accepted. And we're all about acceptance right? O.O
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T13:16:47.9549229-05:00
"Exceptions to the rule do not dictate much." Well they would have dictated a crappy life for that child ... That much is certain.
Deuterium says2015-05-29T13:19:20.5268349-05:00
I'm sure someone would want to, but I don't think the majority would ever agree. And thus "don't transform your baby into fictional animals" is made into law. In our near future however, and what our generation is to decide, is the question of whether to allow modifications to the genome to remove hereditary diseases.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T13:27:12.5339962-05:00
Yes sure. All a way to try and have our cake and eat it too. If you were concerned about hereditary disease enough you'd just chose a good bloodline to partner with. People already do that subconsciously. Genetic modification is a way for people to try and do this after the fact. It'll cost them money. I guess you could look at it as an investment in the short term ... But the instant your son/daughter goes off and bones the person they love without researching their genetic history, you're back at square one and your genetic investment just went out the window. Unless all people get it it's not going to mean much. Then what? They going to try and make certain ones law?
Deuterium says2015-05-29T13:31:56.5066185-05:00
Yep. Law against Alzheimer's and cancer.. Unless of course, you really really want it, then you can have it. Just fill a form.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T13:34:29.9392150-05:00
Well it'd be "fill out a form, don't mate, claim yourself to everyone, etc.", a quick way to be persecuted against for being some type of purist. Doesn't sound fun.
Deuterium says2015-05-29T13:40:34.5021658-05:00
I don't think it will be tattooed on your forehead, until you get the disease that is. I guess your loved ones would really bugger you about it though. I wouldn't mind too much, you find that modifying your genome somehow destroys a part of your humanity and I guess I can understand the reluctance on some levels. But the benefits are too great in my opinion.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T13:51:10.6398109-05:00
Idk. How much increased life expectancy are you going to get out of curing Alzheimer's? Cancer too is mostly an accumulated sort of disease, and is increased exponentially by outside factors that can be controlled. Generally speaking, the impact of those diseases is not as much as the potential impact you make from forcing genetic alterations on the world. It's also lazy, when there are ways to lower the risk of these types of things out there. People should not be allowed to sit idly by and not have a care in the world about their impending death. It makes for a really stagnant and meaningless existence.
Deuterium says2015-05-29T14:06:00.0030145-05:00
The list of potentially extinct diseases is longer than just those two. And even if you don't necessarily gain a longer life by missing out on Alzheimer's, you sure miss out on a lot of suffering. The active workforce will also be increased substantially, something which republicans must love. And I am sure the uses for this technology extend further.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T14:26:37.9883569-05:00
"you sure miss out on a lot of suffering." Very slim chance of that. Still, we can't know what further damage we'd be doing by instituting it. Maybe its something you just develop and then sit on until you get better data that we are indeed degenerating. Then kinda pull it out as a last resort. Not all death is a bad thing. If you wanted a total cure you could just as easily go about it in reverse, Hitler style. I thought people were more open to the idea of letting things work themselves out naturally in a much slower process versus radically changing the gene pool in the course of a generation or two.
Deuterium says2015-05-29T14:49:45.7219389-05:00
This is not going to be widespread before it's throughly researched. But first they must gain allowance to do so. The Chinese have already started and they recently modified a human embryo. It is inevitable.
blackkid says2015-05-29T14:53:06.3118821-05:00
"If a person can be that f'ed up in the mind to do that to themselves, what makes you think they'd not extend things like that to their children if they could, If it became accepted. And we're all about acceptance right? O.O" Is that slope slippery enough?
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T14:56:39.1508656-05:00
They make alot of things mainstream before thoroughly researching them. I mean c'mon, Flu shots? My sister was taking some kind of anti-pimple skin treatment that had a side effect of death in at least some case from the study. How do you make a cosmetic treatment mainstream that has a side effect of death tied to it? People are dumb though, they'll do it. You're right ... It is inevitable, as inevitable as babies genetically modified with certain fantasy animal features.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-29T15:02:35.8150135-05:00
"Is that slope slippery enough?" It's a slope, but it's not the premature slope that Ethics teachers try to steer you from. That trend between parent to child pass-downs is a proven phenomena. In fact the very idea of genetically altering something unborn to fix some perceived issue IS that slope.
blackkid says2015-05-29T15:09:05.3776729-05:00
Everything can kill you. Everything. The question is a matter of likelihood not threat.
blackkid says2015-05-29T15:09:49.1513363-05:00
Also, it's a straight slippery slope. You need to do more than say "It could happen!", as I previously stated; it's a matter of probability not possibility.
Deuterium says2015-05-29T15:18:27.8074387-05:00
True.. There have been some incidences of utter incompetence and greed. I suggest some regulations be put in place. Perhaps "claims made in a commercial must be backed by facts or you'll be charged with quackery", "doctors can't receive (bribes) money or other payment from medical companies" etc.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-01T10:08:09.5393380-05:00
Of course ... And i'm telling you the probability is very high given all the evidence we have of people doing the same in the past. It may be a new day tomorrow, but things aren't going to just suddenly be different this time around.
Deuterium says2015-06-01T10:26:22.2571691-05:00
I don’t believe it’s going to be suddenly different this time around, but the stakes are higher and it’s a divisive subject and I believe it will remain a divisive subject. In my opinion it is a good thing many oppose it although I support it, it will help ensure some degree of caution is used.

Freebase Icon   Portions of this page are reproduced from or are modifications based on work created and shared by Google and used according to terms described in the Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution License.

By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use.