Should all brides that can't be proven to be a virgin be stoned to death as the bible tells you?
Posted by: discomfitingEverybody says we can't make gay marriage legal because the bible says it's wrong, the bible also says this. Should we do it too? Or are you just using the bible to confirm your bigotry.
Let's do it
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"If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death." If you can't prove it, then she is to be stoned to death according to your book.
The bible is one big contradiction mate. ;)
That's old testament bro. We follow a new testament
@labarum, oh so now the Old Testament doesn't matter?
And what about Corinthians 14:34 and Ephesians 6:5 (they're new testament), so all the sudden y'all don't follow the OT? You guys preach things from the OT all the time like anti-homosexuality without it being in the NT
In some cultures, this is done. I might add that other religions, outside of Christianity, condone such punishment. In American society, it's considered cold-blooded murder. That is why you really can't compare "Gay" marriage to this. The Bible may mention both, but the legal system is a whole different ballgame.
I don't really care about the other cultures, I'm talking about American culture and people claiming America is a Christian nation. My point is that it was nothing to do with theological aspects of Christianity (using Christianity as an example because that's what most Americans are) but more of a using theology to confirm their ignorance.
Discomfiting ... In America, what you are proposing is pre-meditated murder. Even if a Believer felt (from the religious standpoint) that it wasn't wrong, they would probably take pause at breaking the law & going to Death Row! Objecting to Gay Marriage won't land you in prison. From the religious standpoint, both are mortal sins but the legal ramifications are vastly different. Perhaps, I should pose this question: Are you ready & willing to kill someone just because they don't approve of your lifestyle? Or does the legal punishment keep your actions at a minimum?
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"Even if a Believer felt (from the religious standpoint) that it WAS wrong ..."
While this seems solely focused on Christianity, it has been my humble observation that no other subject will put people on the same page quicker than homosexuality, i.e. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Non-Believers, Various Races, Socio-economic backgrounds, Genders, etc. The disapproval of Gay Marriage reaches far beyond the Christian church or America.
If we are going to take the god of the bible seriously, we should admit that he never gives us the freedom to follow the commandments we like and neglect the rest. Nor does he tell us that we can relax the penalties he has imposed for breaking them.
I dont understand why christians have to enforce their belifes on every one why cant they belive what they want and allow others to belive what they want.
What i think is people are scared about change and theyu are using the bible to hide behind
For all my fellow Christians who are picking up the anti-gay banner on this forum: God cares far more about us respecting and loving others than he cares about orientation or sin. Everybody messes up eventually, and it's not our place as people to judge or offend others. We are no better than the least of these.
The Bible is contrary to itself, because it is not one book. It is a bunch of old religious texts woven together. Why should you have to have an all or nothing mentality for the Bible? It makes no sense at all. Moses says to kill non-virgin women, but then later, we see Jesus stopping a woman from being murdered for what is basically this same crime. Use your minds. Take what is good, and leave the bad.
This verse is in the Old Testament. It also says to put adultresses to death but in the New Testament when Jesus saw some men in the process of doing so he said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" in other words we don't have to execute people any more, nor did we have to since Jesus started preaching.
So why do "Christians" use versus in the OT to demonize homosexuals?
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You cant pick and choose verses of the bible to follow. You either follow it all or none at all. I'm not saying they should,but if gay marriage is illegal then we should consider it.
I say No because the rules change you Morons
bible says it so yep lol
Some can be, but you just can't prove it. Thus going against the Bible.
If you can prove the groom is too
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Even though the punishment is no longer in effect, that doesn't change the fact that what was a punishable offense in the Old Testament is still sin. For example, if someone raped a woman who was married, the Old Testament law would institute execution. However, we don't do that anymore. That doesn't mean it's no longer wrong, though.
we must preach forgiveness.