Yes, They Should
No, They Shouldn't
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I'm a bit in the middle here. I do personally feel that gays shouldn't be excluded because it really does not reflect the respectable character or the scout, and instead makes it more of a big issue strictly on sexuality.
That being said, I also do not think that Boy Scouts of America should be forced to because of it being a private organization. But at the same time, government funding shouldn't be involved in any way, shape or form for a group that discriminates on the basis of sexuality.
I can't think of a logical reason why they shouldn't be allowed.
It all comes down to generalizations. A couple homosexuals live up to the "Soft Feminine" stereotype, and the rest soon fall under the same category. We don't like to acknowledge that this is the reason, but it is. Same discrimination exists against Arabs, Africans, Muslims, and Mexicans.
Just because someone's gay, doesn't mean they should be discriminated against. That's like saying, "Hey, you like pizza more than hot dogs? Well you can't come to my giant party because I hate pizza!" or something along those lines.... That would be completely stupid, not to mention ignorant and narrow-minded. The only legitimate reason a gay *should* be banned from boy scouts would be if he were extremely obscene, and started hitting on all the other guys or something, in which case, he should be banned for being disrespectful/scandalous, but not because he was gay.
Remember the boy scouts does receive federal funding.
No room for sexuality in the BSA. You don't talk about sex, there's no SEX MERIT BADGE. It's just not a topic of conversation. I'm not against gay participating, as long as they keep their mouths SHUT about being gay. But I think that'd be an impossibility, because most gays feel the need to be outspoken about their sexuality and their sexual choices, etc. THERE'S NO PLACE FOR IT IN THE BSA. Allow gays, by all means, but gays... Please STFU about where you're sewing your oats.
....You sicken me
Like I said, I'm not against gays being IN the boy scouts. I'm against them TALKING about it, in the boy scouts. You don't hear me, at my boy scout meeting, talking about how HETERO I am, so why should I and my boys be subjected to it from the outspoken gays? There are 2 gay guys in my troop. The only reason I know about it, is because I've known them for YEARS and YEARS and have seen them grow up from boys and into men. I have zero problem with them being in the troop. Until such a time as they start talking about it, I won't have a problem with it. When they do, THEN I'll have a problem with it. Do you not get what I'm saying? Just because you're gay, doesn't mean that you have to talk about it 24/7, and doesn't mean that everyone must know. Come out of the closet OUTSIDE the scouts, and be damn proud of it... Fine. And I'll be proud of you also, but leave it OUTSIDE the scout hut.
@el_em_en_oh Do you extend that same policy to hetrosexuals?
Its complete hypocrisy. You can talk about being straight, but not gay, lol. Good to see the extent of your intelligence
Bettabreeder, do I need to redirect you to our debate, where I proved that god does not mind homosexuals?
@el_em_en_oh LOL You think young lads are not going to discus sex, either gay, straight or whatever. You sound like a middle aged biggot!
What the boys discuss amongst themselves is THEIR business. Openly discussing sex & sexuality, in the boy scouts, isn't what the program is about. Until you've actively participated in the BSA, please keep your mouths in the closed position. I've been involved as as a scout & a leader, since I was 8 years old (first cub-scouts, now BSA). That's 34 years in the program. Some things have changed and evolved, some things haven't. This is one of the things that needs to stay in the proverbial "closet". Boys and leaders to be talking about personal sexuality would destroy what the program is all about. As I have said on numerous posts about the topic... I have nothing against LGBT or their involvement in the BSA. Just keep quiet about it. I'm not married. I have no children. Yet I'm still involved in the BSA and will remain so. I might be gay, I might not be, but whatever the case, MY personal sexual preference has NO place being discussed in the program.
Still acting like a nonsensical ranting bigot? #Tolerance
@el_em_en_oh - You are a middle aged person working with kids, of course discussing your sex life would not be appropriate...Trying to censor people for your beliefs is a fine example to a younger generation. I do take your point to some degree but not to the point I would censor people.
All young men will as part of becoming adults have to ask them selves at some point where they stand sexually, I do not think any one talking about being gay will make anyone gay, sure people may explore their sexuality but didn't we all do that? Most of us work out quickly if we are or are not gay, this is usually on our first approach by someone who is. I think you are over sensitive and shouldn't worry so much.
Fine. You win. Sex, sex, sex, and more sex is what should be discussed between adult males & females, and the children, boys, young men in the boy scouts. Have at it. It's all yours (facetious).
Alrighty then...
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Absolutely!
Why not? What's someones sexuality got to do with anything?
My personal feeling is that there are Gays who were Scouts. Just because the BSA didn't know it didn't make them less Gay. And I would wager there are Gays currently involved in Scouting. The same circumstance has happened in the military, for years. Gays kept their orientation quiet & no one knew any different.
OF COURSE!!!!!! Someone's sexuality does not determine their morals
lmao. nobody on the con side is stating their reasons. it's simply unjust religious biasm.
I certainly don't kare
Why Should We Discriminate Gays In Wanting To Participate In Boy Scouts? They Are Legal Citizens? Then They Can Do Anything Any Other Citizen Can Participate In.
They already do
There is no logical reason for them not to.
It isn't any of their business what the child is or is not. If they ban Gays from being a boy scout, then what is to stop bay boys to go to school with other boys? Or straight boys to go to school with girls?
Yes they definitely should, the more things people who are gay are excluded from (eg: priesthood, marriage) the harder it is for them to 'come out'. I think anyone should be aloud to do anything, ( except like kill anyone or something)
they are a private group that follows GOD
There is no room in the boy scout program for sexuality or the expression of sexuality. It's a program for boys & young men. Has ZERO to do with expressing sexuality, which is at the forefront of what the "gay agenda" is all about. When was the last time you saw a kid taking "Sex Merit Badge"? It's not a thing. I'm not against gays, on the contrary... but there's no room for it in the BSA.
If it's a boys' organization, and doesn't allow the expression of sexuality, it only makes sense to disallow this to prevent any unfortunate occurrences, discomfort, or unease. The Boy Scouts of America is only devoted to preparing boys for later life. Open gay sexuality, or the expression of any sexuality, would undermine the organization's mission and message both. Non-debatable.