Should insulting people be banned from DDO again?

Posted by: Haroush

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Allow destructive behavior toward discussion

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Ban insults

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TBR says2015-08-06T23:48:07.7153210Z
If it were, you would be so gone by now.
Haroush says2015-08-06T23:52:43.7747870Z
Yeah.. Right.. I'm not the one who starts the fires taking place here on DDO.
stargate says2015-08-06T23:54:47.8422859Z
Freedom of speech.
Haroush says2015-08-06T23:56:42.8151193Z
There is no reason for insults other than to denigrate a conversation. And before you comment TBR, if the conversation has been already denigrated by certain individuals toward specific individuals, it is reasonable for these individuals to insult those who were insulting people in the first place.
reece says2015-08-06T23:56:46.1379406Z
@Haroush Get out of here you troll.
Haroush says2015-08-07T00:01:15.9728703Z
Insulting people is not freedom of speech. In fact, insulting people only hinders freedom of speech.
stargate says2015-08-07T00:06:21.1264264Z
Yes and no, it can help, and it could hurt. Just depends on the people, and the topic.
Haroush says2015-08-07T00:15:57.3629202Z
How does insulting people ever help? Even if you completely disagree with someone or believe their statements are stupid/ idiotic, insulting them only hinders their ability to be more clear about what they said. Insults bring judgement without explanation from the person being insulted. The very act of insulting infringes on our 1st amendment rights and should not be tolerated.
imabench says2015-08-07T00:35:21.5203827Z
Haroush you gigantic hypocrite you literally walked right into this poll and said: "Here goes Imab*tch again.. When I saw him for my first time I thought he was a d*ke instead of a dude.. Well, he acts like a d*ke, and looks like one anyway." You are as hypocritical as you are a brain dead mule for the right http://www.Debate.Org/polls/do-you-agree-that-president-obama-has-completely-failed-at-foreign-policy/?Cid=64A68034-208A-4522-ACFB-C9B25626FCFF
Haroush says2015-08-07T00:46:50.3271981Z
Oh, how ironic? Imabench is whining about the very acts he commits against everyone he dislikes or disagrees with.
imabench says2015-08-07T00:48:59.5427300Z
I dont deny that I can get under people's skin, boy, im just making you look full of shit on your own poll by pointing out that you childishly insult people on DDO more than anyone else, even though you claim not to ;)
Haroush says2015-08-07T00:49:09.4800901Z
This just proves my point even further. We should ban insults altogether as Imabench just agreed he doesn't like being insulted.
Haroush says2015-08-07T00:50:44.9371020Z
See how emotional he is getting?? Smh.
imabench says2015-08-07T00:51:13.1732830Z
But if we ban insults then youll get banned within 5 minutes since you cant even enter a poll without insulting someone. Even TBR and reece know youre full of shit ;)
imabench says2015-08-07T00:52:31.8912912Z
'emotional' XD Says the baby who literally follows me around on the polls and slings insults at everyone
Haroush says2015-08-07T00:54:20.2652823Z
Hey, hey now.. I am not the one who is the princess here.
imabench says2015-08-07T00:55:23.8355934Z
What's it like getting humiliated and trolled by someone with Elsa as his profile picture every time you try to start a fight with him? ;)
Teaparty1 says2015-08-07T01:03:04.2414411Z
There was a poll back a few days ago: What's most likely do start WW3? I think I found the answer.
TBR says2015-08-07T01:06:07.5425197Z
@Haroush - Look. This is the height of hypocrisy. If you really want to do this, your posts are available to all. Look back, make your judgements. I simple don't care enough about you to insult outright.
Haroush says2015-08-07T01:13:27.8086383Z
I don't need to insult you TBR, and if that is how you show you care about people, then you must have some extreme critical thinking difficulties.
imabench says2015-08-07T01:16:37.6305587Z
Notice in how Haroush's world, anyone who disagrees with him has some sort of mental problem....
Haroush says2015-08-07T01:50:59.9170748Z
Uh huh... Sure.
Wylted says2015-08-07T01:56:17.7847124Z
Haroush is a hypocrite. Read my comment for my answer on the poll.
NewLifeChristian says2015-08-07T02:07:43.0346086Z
@reece Calling someone a 'troll' for simply disagreeing with you is uncalled for. How would you like it if you were called a 'troll' for your political beliefs? This is exactly why I believe insults should be banned on this website, it is starting to become an issue.
Haroush says2015-08-07T02:16:09.4607513Z
Your reasoning is horribly misguided. @ Wylted
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T02:43:19.0315972Z
"Insulting people is not freedom of speech" Dude, read the 1st amendment. Does it say insulting is not included? From the sound of it, its almost as if you advocate for hate speech laws, like Canada does.
triangle.128k says2015-08-07T02:44:42.7417338Z
But, but.... Canada had frëě hëalthcare?
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T02:45:57.4662128Z
@triangle How are the two even related?
Haroush says2015-08-07T02:47:30.2867114Z
Insults don't further freedom of speech. If you think it does, show us how it does.
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T02:52:27.4843129Z
What do you mean further? Insulting is verbal, therefore is speech. So free speech includes verbal. If you expect people to give critiques politely all the time, it ain't gonna happen.
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T02:53:04.7685519Z
If the government signed some ridiculous law, you expect people to politely tell them to stop? Or giving them a piece of their mind?
Haroush says2015-08-07T02:57:24.7754186Z
So does the act of insulting further or diminish a discussion?
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T02:59:21.1521646Z
Depends, but do not see why that is not freedom of speech.
Haroush says2015-08-07T03:19:56.0872808Z
Freedom of speech is the furthering of discussion, the act of insulting someone directly conflicts with freedom of speech because it prevents the freedom to speak by diminishing one's character with absolute judgement without explanation.
Wylted says2015-08-07T04:02:31.1496593Z
Does free speech include oral? If so I'm for it, or against depending who is on the end giving and/or recieving it.
TBR says2015-08-07T04:20:49.9426064Z
@Haroush - What I have seen from you since... Well the poll on the Confederate Flag. What I have seen in a clear trend of disagreeing, getting upset about perceived bullying because you aren't getting agreement until you finally lash out in insults. Now, you can lack the ability for self-examination, but others don't. We know when we are insulting, and imabench would make no preposterous clam that he isn't. Any time I say some nasty bit, I will stand proud and say it again. This little deflection attempt, not the first, is transparent to anyone who can read. Learn to work and debate, or just play like a child. The ball is in your court, but don't blame imabench, me, or anyone else for your inabilities, short temper, and childish behavior.
Haroush says2015-08-07T13:33:47.0933080Z
How about this.. @TBR When talking about self-examination, please learn to do this to yourself. If you did, you would know you are not addressing the issue at hand. Instead, you are singling me out with your perceptions of my characteristics without even discussing the topic in question. Once you figure this out, you will finally be able to discuss matters instead of avoiding topics and attempting to derail the discussion.
Emilrose says2015-08-07T13:42:03.1013244Z
A post of mine got deleted just because I said this guy had a 'tiny d1ck' and told him to ride his motorbike off a cliff...
Emilrose says2015-08-07T13:43:08.1381413Z
Insults are part of life, therefore should be allowed. Besides it gets BORING without them
Emilrose says2015-08-07T13:52:14.6408445Z
@Haroush, you called Mirza 'a communist good for nothing anti-American reject.' Is that not technically an insult?
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T14:11:18.9209427Z
@Haroush http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/freedom+of+speech Nothing about furthering the discussion.
TBR says2015-08-07T14:13:33.4746421Z
@Haroush - I have addressed this issue often on this forum. No, don't ban people for non-disruptive conversation. The line is there, but its not at a insult in the context of an argument. When they are complete ad hominem they do noting for the discussion, but others are not. Since you feel so picked on let me use you. Recently you told me to go masturbate in my basement ( your exact quote was... Well we can look it up). That added nothing to the conversation, and was childish. Back in the flag debate, I think I said something to the effect of "you are being a idiot ignoring black attitudes towards the flag". In the first example, it was completely off-topic, the second was personal, but still trying to get at the discussion. Now, do we want to discuss what hypocrisy is?
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T14:19:36.5485326Z
@EmilRose Yeah, but thats Mirza, who gives a shit?
NewLifeChristian says2015-08-07T14:23:12.2851524Z
Can you guys please not all attack 'Haroush'. How about one of you explains to him your concerns?
Emilrose says2015-08-07T14:24:05.9650965Z
Naw, Mirza is great. Besides the point is that it's an *insult*, which Haroush is ironically claiming that he wants to see banned.
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T14:24:16.4767270Z
I'm not attacking him, I'm simply saying insulting is still free speech.
Emilrose says2015-08-07T14:26:20.8123609Z
Yep, people need to grow up. At school I got insulted all the time, and after I left school.
triangle.128k says2015-08-07T14:45:47.6658038Z
Wow, Haroush complains about insults when he resorts to them more than anybody else here.
Haroush says2015-08-07T15:14:26.0515871Z
@Emilrose@ My comments to Mizra were reactionary, just like the rest of my comments. Anyone who can read can easily see I am a reactionary type person to conflict.
Haroush says2015-08-07T15:18:30.6995303Z
@Taj, NLC was talking about people in general here, not you. You obviously are being civil about this conversation without being destructive toward the conversation.
Haroush says2015-08-07T15:20:02.9249567Z
Insulting someone is not growing up. That is called being immature.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-08-07T15:25:28.8367045Z
@Ima and @tajshar: Wait, did you just type the s-word without getting caught in the filter? :O
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T15:27:18.1337486Z
@Diqiucun_Cunmin The filter is gone :D If I want to call somebody a bitch, I can now.
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T15:28:25.8533486Z
Apologize for my language, I usually do not swear on a regular basis.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-08-07T15:29:33.7738746Z
Just wanted to see if the need for nac is also gone.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-08-07T15:29:58.9992363Z
Oh, okay, now they change your all caps text back to normal.
tajshar2k says2015-08-07T15:30:16.2234311Z
"Insulting someone is not growing up. That is called being immature." Well, your right on that, insulting is certainly undesirable and un-professional, but it their shouldn't be any legal barrier which is the point I'm trying to make. I'd be most happy if people like KKK and WBC are gone, but we can't hold double standards.
Emilrose says2015-08-07T15:30:51.1988553Z
In that case one could argue that all insults are reactionary and use the same kind of excuse. You also misinterpreted what I said in your other comment towards me. By 'grow up', I meant that people should *deal* with insults more appropriately and perhaps not resort to criticizing others when they've insulted [as ALL humans do] themselves.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-08-07T15:31:29.1210140Z
Sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1. Also, x = -b +/- sqrt(b^2 - 4ac) / 2a.
Haroush says2015-08-07T16:53:33.9298294Z
@Emilrose, Not every statement is a reactionary statement. There is always a point of origin. And I understood you just fine. People shouldn't have to put up with insults period. It's where the insults originate from that matters. It is the creator of the insult which needs to grow up. When I say grow up, I mean develop some humility and get informed about the topic at hand.
imabench says2015-08-07T22:45:42.5221063Z
'It is the creator of the insult which needs to grow up', you should try practicing what you preach, boy ;)

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