Should law abiding citizens be allowed to own "assault weapons"?

Posted by: USN276

  • Yes, law abiding citizens should be allowed to own them

  • No, law abiding citizens should not be allowed to own them

81% 22 votes
19% 5 votes
  • I ask anyone to challenge me on it here or with private messages

    Posted by: USN276
  • Heck yeah!

  • really cool to own one!

  • We don't want to die ... yet

  • all men have the right to defend themselves from any possible danger

    Posted by: T8
  • I believe that semi automatics should be allowed, they are easier to maintain and far safer than fully automatic rifles. Oftentimes the M4 is often confused with the AR 15, they have different firing rates. The AR 15 is really a big pistol, while the M4 is a fully automatic rifle.

  • Yes, because we should not allow the government to own the monopoly on violence in certain situations. When a person uses a hammer to kill some one, that hammer could be called an "assault weapon" The term is engineered to scare the uniformed and sway the ignorant into succumbing to a step by step program of disarming the populace. First they take the "assault weapons" that look scary, then they add to the list of "assault weapons" to include semi-auto pistols and then revolvers are added...See where this is going if left unchecked?

  • Obviously not. Everyone is abiding by the law until they do something bad. The highschoolers from Columbine were "law-abiding citizens" and so was the man from the Aurora movie theater shooting, but that didn't stop them from getting assault rifles and killing people. My point is that everyone is abiding by the law until they break it, and if they do, it could be too late. So, no, no one should be allowed assault weapons.

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USN276 says2014-03-27T17:45:41.5845008-05:00
Attention, before you vote, please leave a reason why and be prepared to discuss it with me.
USN276 says2014-03-27T17:57:10.7033182-05:00
@shadow I love this argument you always give. "Everyone is abiding by the law until they do something bad." Over 90% of mass shooters were on or previously taking psychiatric drugs before they went on their shooting sprees. Did you know that? Are you aware that doctors are saying psychiatric drugs are the root to almost all mass shootings? And if an "assault weapons" ban were to work, why do they make up less than 2% of gun homicides, the 2 worst mass shootings in the entire WORLD were not committed by them (which dismisses the argument that they have the ability to kill more people) and in the past TEN YEARS, less than 70 people have been killed by "assault weapons" in mass shootings? It just makes no sense. Not to mention, 90% of law enforcement officers say they do NOT support a ban on them and an "assault weapons" ban would have NO POSITIVE EFFECT.
Macgreggor says2014-03-27T19:02:05.5168066-05:00
No, And the NRA is just as wrong when it opposes efforts to restrict drum magazines that can hold 100 rounds, such as the one the gunman in Colorado used to mow down moviegoers. Seriously, please offer me a reasonable and rational explanation as to why someone who isn't a law enforcement officer needs to fire off that many bullets? This is where common sense makes a ton of sense. Yes, people are the ones pulling the trigger, but our gun culture borders on the truly obsessive. Gun deaths here have reached epidemic levels, and too many of us have an out-of-sight, out-of-mind attitude. Enough with timid politicians afraid to offend the gun lobby. Enough with voters making the stupid and nonsensical argument that the government wants all of our guns. As a nation that trumpets being the best in the world, let's stop outdistancing gun deaths in Japan, China and England. If we want to lead, let's lead in changing directions when it comes to our gun culture. America's gun obsession is unhealthy, unwise and deadly. Delaying the conversation does nothing for all of us. It's time to stand up and lead, America.
USN276 says2014-03-27T19:28:16.6028776-05:00
Macgreggor, I can ask you the question of why someone should be allowed to drink alcoholic beverages? Can you give me any reason as to why someone needs beer, whisky, vodka, ect even once and a while? Over 10,000 innocent people are killed due to drunk driving meanwhile most likely less than 10 people on average per year are killed by 100 beta drum round magazines. There is no need for either, so is the option to ban everything dangerous we don't need? No. Look for alternative solutions. Rather than prohibiting things from people, look for other ways that can work just as well, if not virtually just as well. Did you know over 90% of mass shooters were on or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs before they went on their mass shootings? Are you aware doctors are saying these are the culprits behind mass shootings, and not so much the mental illness? Why must we restrict mentally sane law abiding citizens from certain weapons when we can impose psychiatric drug laws and create a new and enhanced background check system that has databases for people with mental illnesses. Over 99% of mass shooters were previously mentally ill and 80% got their guns legally, so if we knows these facts, doest that mean we can stop future mass shootings without prohibiting ANY type of firearm or magazine device from good citizens who are not mentally ill? "Gun deaths here have reached epidemic levels" Who are the vast majority of gun homicide victims? Criminals. Majority of people being shot up on the streets are gang bangers and street thugs. Why? Because high risk lifestyles lead to a higher chance of death. My father was a cop. Nearly every single murder victim he found, had some sort of criminal record. Why must we punish gun owners (who make up an astronomically small portion of gun crimes) because savages on the streets don't know how to behave? By the way, Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Estonia have virtually no guns and skyrocketing homicide rates. (much higher than the U.S.)
Macgreggor says2014-03-27T20:09:28.2827216-05:00
And the NRA is just as wrong when it opposes efforts to restrict drum magazines that can hold 100 rounds, such as the one the gunman in Colorado used to mow down moviegoers. Seriously, please offer me a reasonable and rational explanation as to why someone who isn't a law enforcement officer needs to fire off that many bullets? This is where common sense makes a ton of sense. Yes, people are the ones pulling the trigger, but our gun culture borders on the truly obsessive. Gun deaths here have reached epidemic levels, and too many of us have an out-of-sight, out-of-mind attitude. Enough with timid politicians afraid to offend the gun lobby. Enough with voters making the stupid and nonsensical argument that the government wants all of our guns. As a nation that trumpets being the best in the world, let's stop outdistancing gun deaths in Japan, China and England. If we want to lead, let's lead in changing directions when it comes to our gun culture. America's gun obsession is unhealthy, unwise and deadly. Delaying the conversation does nothing for all of us. It's time to stand up and lead, America.
Macgreggor says2014-03-27T20:13:10.9585490-05:00
USN276 That is rationalization not a debate. I'm done. It doesn't address why civilians need that mush gun power with now training and no coping skills. Plus TV pundants pushing fear and hate 24/7 on the media. I was in the navy too I am apssycholgoist now,so I see the wreckage from wr, and everyday life,do you think I want to see these people witht that gun power?
USN276 says2014-03-27T20:22:31.2985409-05:00
Ok, you copied and pasted your first comment and you refuse to give a coherent argument. I've debated too many times and I've seen this strategy of making some random accusation and then saying "i'm done, i'm not debating anymore." I've asked you to explain to me why citizens need alcoholic beverages. I compared the number of people killed a year from 100 round beta mags and the number of drunk driving deaths per year. Clearly alcohol is the superior killer so I'll ask again, why does someone need to pour chemicals (By that I mean alcohol which technically is not supposed to be consumed) down their throats which make them intoxicated and cause them to do absolutely stupid and reckless things? Also, I am not in the Navy. I do however plan to join the Marines. There is a long story as to why my name is USN and not USMC. If I explained it, you would understand.
jery1569 says2014-03-27T21:37:39.1669138-05:00
@USN276-What do you mean by assault weapons?
USN276 says2014-03-27T21:39:26.1367995-05:00
I mean rifles with "assault weapon" features. The cosmetic features the idiot Diane Feinstein actually believes that they enhance a mass shooters killing abilities when in fact, the worst mass shooting EVER was not committed by a rifle classified as an "assault weapon"
nato1111 says2014-03-27T23:01:50.1913094-05:00
Wow copy and past from our debate. Lol very affective i might add!
Macgreggor says2014-03-28T07:28:13.9245343-05:00
Usn I di not believe an untrained civilian need that much fire power and no coping skills. Period. Hald the reasons the goobers have gun is because they cannot afford a corvette. They are ill informed run in pacts have group or gang mentlaity and ther is not enough viloence to warrant all this gun power. Theye need mental assessment mor than guns and your stats on killings and randomness supports that woleheartedlely. I don't dreink, do drugs or drinve impaired sot that anology is just stupid on me. A person dosnot get in a car with the intent to go rungin a house to murder peopledrunk or not.. I take it you were not an officer. Mentality and
jery1569 says2014-03-28T08:04:34.8212129-05:00
@USN276-Good I can choose yes now.
Macgreggor says2014-03-28T08:07:24.5632024-05:00
Jery like clock work.
Macgreggor says2014-03-28T08:10:01.3229339-05:00
Hey fake Navy dude, teak out "law abiding' and I will agree you should have a tank and grenades at the next back yard bbq.
jery1569 says2014-03-28T08:15:30.5687178-05:00
Is this an accusation of conservatism? You still never told me why you think I'm a conservative. I don't have anything against gun control (except the waiting period and the so called assault weapons ban). But I know they don't decrease violent crime. The last assault weapons ban didn't, why would another one?
jery1569 says2014-03-28T08:18:25.8484313-05:00
That was supposed to say "The last assault weapons ban didn't WORK..."
FearTheBeard1 says2014-03-28T08:48:30.0966070-05:00
Lets Ask California State Sen. Leland Yee his thoughts on banning weapons?
FearTheBeard1 says2014-03-28T08:50:55.4271386-05:00
California state Sen. Leland Yee is facing a slew of corruption charges as part of a massive FBI sting operation that surfaced allegations of firearms trafficking, money laundering, murder-for-hire and drug distribution. He is a subject matter expert on Firearms!
FearTheBeard1 says2014-03-28T08:52:15.0574073-05:00
Never mind his voting record in the Senate for tighter gun control, we should do as he and his cohorts say not as they do.
Macgreggor says2014-03-28T09:01:26.2327822-05:00
Jery you are not a centrist, a conservative or a liberal; you are a media parrot with no concept of political ideologies. Prove me wrong, baby, spout them off. I'm listening.
jery1569 says2014-03-28T09:17:07.5428162-05:00
@Macgreggor-I did already in the liberal, conservative, centrist poll from the other day. My comments were directed at you but you never responded. I think it was because you hate being wrong.
jery1569 says2014-03-28T09:18:20.5632031-05:00
By the way Macgreggor, just because you can define centrist, doesn't mean you understand it.
USN276 says2014-03-28T16:03:15.2432949-05:00
"Usn I di not believe an untrained civilian need that much fire power and no coping skills." Why does any person need alcoholic beverages??? I've asked you 5 times. If you think it is questionable for mentally sane law abiding citizens (which make up less than .01% of firearm violations) to own 100 round beta magazines, why is it ok for ANYONE to drink alcoholic beverages? Your putting yourself in a stalemate. You don't have an argument. You can't go off and say "you shouldn't have this because you don't have a true reason to own it" No one should drink alcohol. PERIOD. Am I going to go run my mouth off and tell people "you can't drink this because you have no leg imitate reason to"? It's baffling you are still trying to argue. I'm all for tougher background checks systems to prevent crazy people from obtaining any kind of gun. I am also a HUGE advocate for DRUG control. Psychiatric drugs are the culprits behind over 90% of mass shootings.
USN276 says2014-03-28T16:03:52.4027331-05:00
And don't call me "fake navy dude" I'm not posing as a military veteran. I am however going to join the military.
Macgreggor says2014-03-28T20:58:46.1650300-05:00
Oh brother Jery, you can't understand the complexities of tying your shoes. Get the f*ck outta' here you 90 mile an hour moot.
Macgreggor says2014-03-28T21:00:11.2167752-05:00
I'm gong to "join the military. Blow me. When you have been a medic during a war, then talk you idiot.
USN276 says2014-03-28T21:03:21.3351939-05:00
I'm still waiting macgreggor
Venusara says2014-03-28T21:13:14.5757967-05:00
Oh here we go again
jery1569 says2014-03-28T23:16:51.7057421-05:00
@Macgreggor-Hey I can tie my shoes when I'm high. I'll do it right now.
USN276 says2014-03-29T21:29:25.3684102-05:00
Quick question for you Macgreggor. Where you an "officer" when you were in the "military"?

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