Should medicide be legal and covered under Medicaid and Medicare?

Posted by: ChosenWolff

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Medicide should be legal to all groups, and covered under a separate program called Mercycare

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Medicide should be illegal in all cases

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Medicide should be legal, but not covered by Medicaid or Medicare

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Medicide should be legal, but covered only by Medicaid

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Medicide should be legal, but only covered by Medicare

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Medicide should only be legalized in cases of extreme suffering (Euthanasia)

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Medicide should be legal, and covered by Medicaid and Medicare

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ChosenWolff says2014-07-10T23:44:00.3157018-05:00
I'm pretty sure this will be the next conservative talking point. After amnesty and gay marriage abolition inevitably fall flat.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-10T23:46:56.3316301-05:00
Euthanasia is legalized in several countries, like in Belgium, Sweden, and the Netherlands. It's only legal in 4 states here in the United States, although it's under very conservative policies. I think people should have full rights to make sure someone commits suicide in the safest and least painful way possible. There is no reasonable excuse for the abolition of medicide except moral code.
discomfiting says2014-07-11T00:15:50.6938839-05:00
I'm conflicted over this. When this topic comes up about assisted suicide, I generally end up thinking about mentally unstable people; like people who have chemical imbalances resulting in depression, many of the victims try to commit suicide or want to commit suicide but are hesitant or fail at the attempt. Part of myself wants to say no that these people can be helped and we should try helping them but then I actually think about it and not everybody can be saved. You have people who are depressed because of life issues that they're trapped in or you have people with chemical imbalances. It's easier to help a person with a chemical imbalance because you can have a trial and error of medication and have therapy. But then there are the people that have personal issues leading to depression and sometimes no amount of therapy or help can get the person to have an realization or break through. There's also the people with schizophrenia where it can't be cured or coped with the way depression can. Psychosis or schizophrenia, you can have one or both of the auditory or visual delusions and these people cannot be cured but only helped, maybe. Depending on the severity of it, a person can take an anti-psychotic and have regular theory and possibly live a barely less than average life. They'll always have the delusions no matter how much medication or therapy but they can still have some type of pleasure in life. Part of me then says 'alright I really understand that no matter how much we try to help this person, they really won't have a good life, be treated like everybody else, and won't get better.' which is where I begin to see the use of assisted suicide. I'm really conflicted over trying to help people and just letting them have control over whether they live or die because most of the time when you get a feeling of wanting to commit suicide. So you have people who can be helped and will be grateful that they didn't commit suicide though they wanted to or failed and then there are the ones that no matter how hard you try with medicine or therapy, they'll just want to kill themselves because they're suffering and they'll always be suffering. Regarding people who have terminal illnesses, I am okay with them taking their lives with assisted suicide because if I were to be put in that position where I had xx months or weeks to live, I would kill myself and go out with dignity. So it should definitely be legal to have assisted suicide for all groups but there really should be some type of attempt to stabilize and help the mentally ill before allowing them to commit suicide.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-11T00:18:29.7982839-05:00
LOL, nice post. Of course we should try to help people, but a consenting adult should be able to end his life. It's the same thing with abortions. If you don't legalize it, then people will commit suicide inhumanely or painfully.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-11T00:19:30.8566839-05:00
The US does fund mental health premiums btw
discomfiting says2014-07-11T00:34:56.7050323-05:00
People are going to commit suicide and more than half of the times a person commits suicide, they use a gun. There are more humane ways and safer ways you can take your own life. I completely agree with the comparison; people will do it regardless of the legality of it but at least if it's legalized it can be done humanely and safe. They should continue to do that too.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-11T00:36:48.5862070-05:00
California criminalized it under Arnold Swargzenator (however you pronounce his name). It's the only state in the country where you can be given a prison sentence for helping someone commit suicide.
discomfiting says2014-07-11T00:56:43.4727608-05:00
http://public.health.oregon.gov/ProviderPartnerResources/EvaluationResearch/DeathwithDignityAct/Documents/year16.pdf
discomfiting says2014-07-11T00:57:08.9086000-05:00
It shouldn't be illegal & I'm rather shocked that it's California that would criminalize aiding a person's suicide attempt. I'm looking at some statistics about Oregon's legalization. Average age of 71 years old and main causes were loss of autonomy. As bad as this may sound, it's not like it's young people who are in a rut and just want to commit suicide as an escape, it's elderly people who lived their long lives and just feel disconnected with the ability to be free, independent and "human" in the way of meaning able to do what you want. I can understand an elderly person committing suicide because of their loss of autonomy.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-11T00:57:56.5275608-05:00
How did you do that 0.0, your second comment went above the first
discomfiting says2014-07-11T01:03:55.7175608-05:00
It's magic. B|

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