Should Russia and US unite for once?

Posted by: TheRussian

Russia and US are always against each other and it seems like its mainly because of the government. Should they we try uniting?

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Yes, they should try cooperating

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No, US should destroy Russia

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No, Russia should destroy the US

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Just keep things the way they are now

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Juan_Pablo says2014-08-10T19:02:05.8728258-05:00
No. Russia needs to start following international law or God needs to intervene and start punishing people left and right in Russian high office! This applies to other nations and organizations heavily breaking the law around the world. For every day that passes that God does nothing, it irrefutable that God is responsible for the tragic state of our world!
Juan_Pablo says2014-08-10T19:05:18.9279051-05:00
"For everyday that passes that God does nothing, it cements the case that God is responsible and therefore culpable for the tragic state of our world! God sins and there must be reciprocal action for those sins!"
TheRussian says2014-08-10T19:26:36.9481637-05:00
What are you talking about? What exact "international law" do you speak of?
texans14 says2014-08-10T19:46:49.4601812-05:00
We should stay neutral and stay out of each other 's business.
TheRussian says2014-08-10T19:54:26.1345812-05:00
Good idea BUT, since both Russia and US have such enormous spheres of influence, I doubt that would be possible :/
inaudita says2014-08-10T20:51:35.6271648-05:00
Both must be enslaved, as only through slavery can come stability.
TheRussian says2014-08-10T21:02:12.4002102-05:00
Hahaha, definitely not necessary
YoungLawyer says2014-08-11T22:42:11.9461951-05:00
No. One stands for the free world, the other for the unfree and oppress world. They do not tie or share the same value.
TheRussian says2014-08-11T22:45:25.3899151-05:00
Are you kidding me? Either you are a troll, or have been exposed to an extremely large amount of propaganda...
TheRussian says2014-08-11T22:46:15.9504874-05:00
Free world? The free world in which the NSA watches your every step? The free world in which leaders who are un-liked by the "land of the free" are overthrown by the CIA?
TheRussian says2014-08-11T22:47:12.2634274-05:00
Tell me about how Russia "stands for the unfree (which is not a word) and oppressed world"?
TheRussian says2014-08-11T22:51:45.1480180-05:00
We must unite in an attempt to make this world a better place.....We are the same people...Russians and Americans....We are very similar but as a result of being born on 2 diff. Continents and having our govt's expose us to crazy amounts of propaganda, we are "taught" to hate the other...
YoungLawyer says2014-08-12T02:35:51.0309877-05:00
Well first of all do not call me a troll, if anything you're expose to propaganda, as you live in a communist country, where the media is regulated. I guess you did not understand what I met by free world. And I'm sure its because you do not breathe it. When I say free world, I'm speaking of those guarantee under our constitution, which someone of them are limited in Russia. You're attacking the NSA for what you read, and even if they did watch my every foot step as you claim, what about your country? Are the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation not watching you Sir? Every government in the world has some security agency, and I'm sure every government spies on its citizen so do not make it look like NSA is the only one doing it. You speak of the CIA, yet look your own country has violated Ukraine Sovereignty. They did so because of wealth, power, and weapons. What about your KGB? I'm sure they have been doing some dirty work. But you wouldn't know because you're so focus on us. "Tell me about how Russia "stands for the unfree (which is not a word) and oppressed world"?" If you want you and I can have a debate about it as I'm not going to say furthermore on here. This is a poll not a debate. So I will leave that up to you. I can take you back to history and even now. Our Putin alone wealth is more than most people, as he is feeding of y'all resources. It isn't so much about hate, but our value. It's about knowing your friends from your enemies. As our moms have taught us, do not follow the bad guy. I believe we need to work in the spirit of cooperation, in building a better world today, but if one does not respect International laws and restrict rights that are inalienable, than a line has to be drawn.
TheRussian says2014-08-12T10:27:45.5691307-05:00
Communist country? Do you still live in the 20th century? Communism/Socialism ended in 1991. KGB no longer exists either. Violated sovereignty? Oh, you mean with those soldiers that were already in Sevastopol? Don't forget that Russia and Ukraine had an agreement that ALLOWED Russia to have up to 25,000 troops in Ukraine.
YoungLawyer says2014-08-12T13:03:53.6820342-05:00
"Communist country? Do you still live in the 20th century? Communism/Socialism ended in 1991. KGB no longer exists either. Violated sovereignty? Oh, you mean with those soldiers that were already in Sevastopol? Don't forget that Russia and Ukraine had an agreement that ALLOWED Russia to have up to 25,000 troops in Ukraine." Like I said, this is a poll, not a debate. If you want to take this to the debate section, start it and invite me. Every country, even your country, still have socialism programs. Unless you do not know what socialism is. Government assistance programs to its citizen is also a form of socialism, unless your country does not have that. KGB may no longer exist, but that does not mean some of their work cannot go unforgotten. I think it's because there's no money to fund KGB. Having soldiers there does not underpin the fact that Russia took over the country, and violated its sovereignty. Are you saying we should take over Japan, because we still have bases and troops there. Same with Germany. Russia is still trying to ignite the conflict of the old centuries. Russia is trying to get its hand of those weapons still in Ukraine. Russia wants the lands they once held under its belt. Don't forget that Ukraine and NATO have an agreement, so if United States and NATO want to retaliate against Russia, don't try fussing.
TheRussian says2014-08-12T15:52:47.2264483-05:00
What is there to debate? The Crimean people voted, had a referendum. Over 90% chose to join Russia. What "taking over a country" are you talking about? And NATO probably will do very little to help the Ukrainian gov't out in this situation because if they do, then they'd be in trouble with Russia which they don't want.
TheRussian says2014-08-12T15:59:59.0186268-05:00
I'm not saying you "should" take over countries with military bases in them. You have absolutely no reason to and would receive no support from the population there. Almost all of Crimea was Russian speaking, Crimea was a part of Ukraine for less that 50 years, it was Russian for hundreds of years. Russians spilled their blood over Crimea during the Russian-Turkish wars and WW2. Russia received support from the people Crimea. I don't see a single problem.
TheRussian says2014-08-12T16:01:31.1828360-05:00
Another thing, Ukraine is not actually in NATO. So neither the US, nor NATO would have any obligation to help Ukraine out.
YoungLawyer says2014-08-12T16:12:43.6093736-05:00
What is there to debate? The Crimean people voted, had a referendum. Over 90% chose to join Russia. What "taking over a country" are you talking about? And NATO probably will do very little to help the Ukrainian gov't out in this situation because if they do, then they'd be in trouble with Russia which they don't want. Oh really they voted? Did they truly voted, when Russia was obviously in the country with their military force. They probably dictated the votes. You annex Crimea. Did Russia not? I do not know if I should be laughing, or I don't know, lost? There's probably alot NATO can do, but again, we're trying to work towards a better world, not letting a small issue escalate. What trouble will NATO be in? Russia economy cannot even stand with California, New York, or Texas alone. Just imagine Russia fighting the United States alone. We'll probably destroy your little infrastructure you have, and cut of your natural gas you're so depended upon. Lol, America don't even need to fight Russia. California alone will fight Russia. Now imagine United States and NATO economic, political, and military power combine. Without Nuclear use from both sides, Russia will be done within a year or so. Don't forget what Germany did in WW2. Russia had more causalities than any other Country. A nation war power depends on its economic standing. Germany was so industrialize that it conquer nations so fast and was quickly winning. With NATO economic power, we'll quickly invade Russia from all fronts which of course Russia won't be able to stand with their economic standing. Let's work towards peace. Not war. Let's stop this arguing. I stand for humanity, not one continent, nation, or people. We all bleed the same blood, we all cry and laugh, we all have our fears and aspiration. We're one world.
TheRussian says2014-08-12T16:28:34.0550458-05:00
Yes, they truly voted. There's no evidence that the vote was invalid. No, there's not a lot that NATO can do because if NATO goes in, Russia retaliates and war begins. It's funny that you bring up the fact that "California alone can fight Russia" when Russia alone has a larger ground force than all of NATO combined. You say you work for peace and humanity? Then why the hell did you vote that the US should destroy Russia?
TheRussian says2014-08-12T16:29:24.8018458-05:00
Yes, Russia had the most casualties in WW2 because Russia beat Germany almost single-handedly.
YoungLawyer says2014-08-12T18:50:53.6150702-05:00
Really they truly voted? How sure are you there's no evidence. Maybe Russia hiding the evidence. This is what I said: "There's probably alot NATO can do, but again, we're trying to work towards a better world, not letting a small issue escalate." There's alot we could do, but we not going to let this issue escalate. I'm talking about in terms of us actually fighting, there's alot we could do. But since there's not a war, and we do not want to make this a big issue, we not going to do anything. We'll let you keep you piece of cake. Look, you can have all the military force in the world, you could have the manpower in the world, but if you do not have a strong economy, you'll pretty much lose the war. Infrastructure is a vital part of fighting a war, if we destroy your little infrastructure, you cannot withstand continuing a war. We'll pretty much take those ground forces from the air, especially with the drones. Also note that war is about how long you can continue to fight a war by sending in more people. Well Russia population is less than America. During WW2, America quickly industrialize, and surprise the world, like no other nation has done. America will do the same. Do you know that the United States ranked #1 in Military power? You may have the ground force strength, but you lack in two vital strength: Air Force & Naval Force. Most of the nations on the military strength world ranking are NATO nations. Imagine what that means for Russia. I voted as a joke. And I'm commenting back because of the way you came at me. By calling me a troll you crossed the line, and by trying to point out the wrong about United States, you turn a blind eye as to your country own wrongs. Making seem as if we're the bad guy. And the only reason Russia even beat Germany was due to your cold weather. You did not beat Germany single-handedly as British were also fighting Germany. Consider it a tag team match. Http://www.Globalfirepower.Com/countries-comparison-detail.Asp?Form=form&country1=United-States-of-America&country2=Russia&Submit=Compare+Countries http://www.Globalfirepower.Com/countries-comparison.Asp
TheRussian says2014-08-12T18:58:15.0212435-05:00
1) Globalfirepower is a great website, I use it all the time but you cannot say that NATO countries are among the top military power. Technically yes they are, but if you look at the crazy gap between US/Russia/China's militaries, and the rest of the world, it is obvious that even NATO countries (except US) are no where near the level that Russia/China/US are at. 2) I do not wish to argue about Russia vs. US war scenario. I have argued it too many times. 3) Maybe our victory was due to our cold weather (it wasn't), but that still means its our victory. Britain played little to no role. The USSR took down Germany almost completely alone. (This, however, I will debate). 4 out of every 5 Germans killed died fighting against the Russians. The Russians captured Berlin. USSR even heavily contributed to the victory over Japan.
TheRussian says2014-08-12T19:00:07.2639547-05:00
Forgive my insult, but I do not tolerate what you say. Especially when it comes to WW2.

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