Should smoking be banned in public places

Posted by: Acejack21

I think the states have gone way too far on encroaching on our civil liberties on this one, by working on banning smoking everywhere, when even being around second hand smoke for an hour will not affect anyone.

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Acejack21 says2015-04-08T23:51:13.5000432-05:00
How does just one hour of second hand smoke give you health problems? I want scientific evidence along with biological evidence as well, and not just a bunch of links from "biased" websites
m4j0rkus4n4g1 says2015-04-08T23:51:34.8588541-05:00
I am divided on this issue. I smoke casually and generally consider this to do little harm to others. However, I believe that it is largely ignorant of me to assume that my behavior does not have ramifications for those around me, as secondhand smoke can harm those who breathe it in. The description provided for this biased survey suggests that secondhand smoke is not harmful for even an hour, however I would argue that public smoking forces the majority of the public to breathe in more secondhand smoke than normal every day, assuming they are in an even remotely urban area. Let me point out that I fervently support civil liberties. However, the government exists so that the civil liberties that are awarded to members of the country do not infringe upon civil rights. I personally feel that I have the right, as a US citizen, to a breathing environment that is as non-toxic as possible, and that it is a protection of my rights to ensure that this is so. So, is taking away public smoking going against civil liberties? Yes. However, smoking in public areas is infringing on the civil rights of those around you, possibly to detrimental effects. While I can see argument for the nationwide ban under this argument, I feel it is necessary to point out that the emissions of vehicles, especially in major cities, causes pollution that can be detrimental to the health of many citizens. In this way, the liberties of the masses to operate motor vehicles are infringing on the rights of some to breathe clean air and, in some cases, to quality or longevity of life in the city. This suggests, of course, that cars be banned, or fiercely restricted, and yet I don't see much benefit in arguing this. So, there it is. I think there are good arguments on both sides, and that this is a case which will be getting more and more attention. Cases are not always cut and dry; there is room for grey, and in this case, that grey is the reason I do not feel comfortable voting right away. I see this turning up on the ballot some time in the future, and so I am going to study up on the effects of smoking and any legislation concerning it. Thank you, at the least, for prompting me of the important of this topic.
Acejack21 says2015-04-09T00:11:15.3065713-05:00
Hey m4 (for short, you really need a shorter tag) I personally believe it should be up to the business, not our government. I see both sides of the argument. Infringing on a right isn't necessarily taking away the right to clean breathable air. Infringing on a right is taking something away from people because they feel it is right. Like taking away smoking in a public place, that is infringing on a right to freedom to make decisions for yourself. Yes you have to breathe to survive, but the levels of pollution in general is a lot lower than a lot of biased studies suggest.
Kdl27 says2015-04-09T00:34:58.8285634-05:00
Because second hand smoke would lead to problems over a long period of time it is difficult to get solid biological evidence as to whether second hand smoke was truly the cause of the issues or if other factors came into play. Basically, if someone in their 60s came to a doctor for difficulty breathing, second hand smoke from when they were a child or a young adult could be a big factor in their problems, but so could eating habits aging etc. the evidence for this area is difficult because of the amount of variable that could come into play.
TBR says2015-04-09T16:32:34.4099925-05:00
I am a smoker, but your challenge is easy http://www.Cdc.Gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/health_effects/

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