Should the confederate flag be banned all together?

Posted by: Haroush

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Let the confederate flag fly!

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Burn that flag!

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Haroush says2015-06-23T20:45:19.6646516-05:00
Tell me something.. What gives someone the right to fly a Mexico flag, Puerto Rico Flag, Cuba flag, or Nigeria Flag, but not a confederate flag?
Haroush says2015-06-23T20:47:52.4150597-05:00
Further more don't tell me the confederate flag stands for slavery because it doesn't.
Haroush says2015-06-23T20:56:20.7317003-05:00
How would you feel if I were to burn an American flag?
imabench says2015-06-23T21:38:12.4966645-05:00
The confederate flag is the flag of a people who wanted nothing to do with the United States. Its a flag symbolizing mob rule, oppression, racism, and yes, SLAVERY. Its literally the most unpatriotic flag you could fly since no other flag belonging to a nation like Mexico or Puerto Rico was born out of a desire to leave the United States like the Confederate flag was. It shouldnt be banned, but you are deluding yourself into thinking that it doesnt partially stand for slavery, or that its good for anything other than emergency toilet paper.
TBR says2015-06-23T22:12:53.3820188-05:00
No. Ignorant a$$holes have the right to be ignorant a$$holes. It should be removed from government buildings, but let the bucktooth display their "Pride' all they like.
minnie.xox says2015-06-23T22:25:04.0688702-05:00
Flags mean different things to different people.
Forthelulz says2015-06-23T22:51:33.6886653-05:00
@Imabench You screech at the Confederate flag, but then, from the examples you yourself provided, realize "Wait, Mexico has a bit of mob rule (Silver or Lead, my friend? The Mob rules here.), plenty of institutionalized racism (No, really, the Native Americans get a *lot* of grief, at least in Puerto Vallarta, according to my friend who went there on holiday.), and there is, in fact, slavery. " You see the deformed kids begging? There is a ringleader who had them deformed and takes what they took in. This happens all the time. The Confederates were a straight-up plutocratic oligarchy, with a bit of slavery on the side, which the North had as well up until the Thirteenth Amendment was passed after the Civil War.
Westwinds1 says2015-06-23T22:53:14.1333977-05:00
I agree it supports racism, slavery and breaking away from the united states, personally I would never fly it. But it should not be ban for it violates the first amendment which is freedom of speech, so no it should not be ban.
Najs says2015-06-23T23:45:55.5795144-05:00
@Imabench, Bravo! No need for me to add, you said it all perfectly.
B0HICA says2015-06-24T04:49:42.6524981-05:00
The Confederate flag does not stand for slavery, nor was the civil war about slavery. The south had very good reasons for what they did. In my opinion, the wrong side won that war. Read your damn history books, instead of using them for toilette paper.
Stefy says2015-06-24T08:42:08.6629029-05:00
These answers are two extremes. Take it down from givernment and other public buildings. But not private property or peoples bumoer stickers/t shirts and the like.
TBR says2015-06-24T11:15:38.4367940-05:00
@B0HICA - You read some history books. All the attempts to minimize the importance of slavery as a motivator are week. To say it had nothing to do with slavery is revisionist.
Black-Jesus says2015-06-24T11:48:29.6571988-05:00
@B0HICA, just to add to TBR, the reason that the South attempted to succeed was because they thought they thought they were standing up for states rights. This is because slavery is never mentioned in the Constitution and therefore the right to decide about slavery is left to the states according to the tenth amendment. However, they thought this because they didn't consider black people to be people, who they have no right to own according to the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, because they happen to be people. So, yes, the conflict was about state's rights because the Confederates thought that it was because the racism of their culture wouldn't allow them to see that what they were doing was quite obviously wrong: wrong in the eyes of the DOI, the Constitution, and morality, and when they were wrong in the eyes of the Federal government, they betrayed it. The Confederate States of America was a treasonous, foolish, racist and immoral movement, and they had no legal or moral right to succeed from the United States of America. Therefore the right side of the war won, and if you want to learn that for yourself pick up the documents of our founding fathers and give them a good read, after you're done with that, read your history book, not the "Redneck Racist Guide to the Civil War", but an actual textbook, connect the dots, and reach the same conclusion as every other rational thinking person. And finally buy a dictionary because I'm sure you don't own one and learn to spell "toilet"
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-24T13:56:50.9324974-05:00
"To say it had nothing to do with slavery is revisionist." It had even more to do with tax and representation too. The southern states were being treated like textile/agricultural producing colonies of the north. They werent allowing them to be competitive in their rates for their goods and on top of that the north couldnt compete with the south on making those goods (due to their labor practices). It had a bit to do with slavery, sure. The north still segregated the crap out of everything afterwards ... It wasnt about treating blacks fairly or anything ... It was about breaking a southern economy. They were outgrowing the north. Still are.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-24T13:59:10.1919846-05:00
Watch what happens when Texas and Florida continue to juggernaut the nations manufacturing and the norths unions crumble and scare away all of their businesses again. It's gonna take a guy like Bernie Sanders to steal away the southern states profit margins with high regulation to bring money back up north and support those fools.
Haroush says2015-06-25T21:16:09.0695865-05:00
@ Black Jesus, They also were fighting against the idea of industrialization believe it or not. Though like others have made clear people like you only know that it had to do with slavery. Furthermore, FBE's point leads right into the point I said in my first sentence about industrialization.

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