Should the Emergency Unemployment Compensation Act be extended?

Posted by: Jifpop09

  • Yes, it will help the economy in the long run, and get people back into the workforce.

  • No, because those socialists don't want anyone to earn a living by themselves.

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  • Yes, it will service unemployed citizens in getting back into the workforce. Remove government aid to unemployed rich people. And readjust premiums to fair levels, on unemployment insurance. I'm a bit disappointing with the small budget on the government insurance program though, for funding jobless people.

  • Yes, because the complaint of wanting small government is counterintuitive of making more people depend on the dole [ie food stamps] By extending unemployment, the person has to be looking for work to receive the benefit or at least making an effort and there are programs to help the person change occupations if necessary.

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Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T17:58:13.0859335-05:00
Wow, it seems people had no idea what this was. I'm dissapointed, and taking this to the forums.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T18:31:43.5067749-05:00
Haroush, why don't you support government unemployment insurance
Haroush says2014-04-11T19:36:08.8675344-05:00
I feel only certain people should receive unemployment benefits, not everyone. As there are some people who have been using unemployment benefits as more so a welfare check rather then a unemployment check.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T19:40:55.8919344-05:00
I believe this only applies to people who get kicked from the workforce though. My favorite part of the bill is the free access the government will provide you for. They will basically have government employees with the sole purpose of getting people jobs.
Haroush says2014-04-11T19:43:07.8049868-05:00
Well, it depends on who it applies to.. You ought to go fetch the bill in question and paste the link here so everyone can look at the bill.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T19:44:24.5260288-05:00
Here it is. The premium adjustments sound attractive. I've been tracking it for a while...... Https://www.Govtrack.Us/congress/bills/113/s2149/text
Haroush says2014-04-11T19:56:38.8885185-05:00
I think this applies to those who had the emergency benefits from before as well.. In my opinion, these people shouldn't receive more benefits... Only those who haven't received emergency benefits. Furthermore, I think the government should be keeping an eye on these people a lot closer. As there is plenty of people who just write down a list of employers and say that they've applied to these employers without any authentication. For example, they'll call into an employer, ask if they are hiring and if they aren't, they can use that as a reference as a place they applied for.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T19:59:56.8537875-05:00
From reading the law, I gather that this is nationalized unemployment insurance. It applies to everyone who loses unemployment. The government does appear to monitor these people though, as signing up also commits yourself to mandatory government assistance programs. At least this forces people who are unemployed to actively seek work. And I think we can both get behind the premium adjustment amendment.
Haroush says2014-04-11T20:01:56.8599092-05:00
Yes, they are monitoring them to a degree, but not by much.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T20:03:02.5803629-05:00
None the less, the fact that these people are required to participate in mandatory assistance is a benefit, regardless of monitoring. They lose their check, or they show up for daily job support.
Haroush says2014-04-11T20:06:34.5085141-05:00
The reason I take this so seriously is because this is everyone's taxes these people are benefitting from especially if it is extended benefits. Now if it is someone who has worked for 10 years and recently became unemployed with their benefits running out they should have to use their retirement benefits as others shouldn't be personally responsible for someone else's predicament.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T20:09:29.8626895-05:00
Again, this doesn't apply to all unemployed people. This is an insurance policy. You need to be signed up before you lose your job. Its basically a government pillow plan to get people with work experience into reemployment.
Haroush says2014-04-11T20:11:31.1578049-05:00
You have been signed up for a while to benefit from this plan..
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T20:12:18.3319503-05:00
Please Clarify?
Haroush says2014-04-11T20:12:56.8481034-05:00
It's extended benefits! Lol
howardzinn says2014-04-11T20:15:49.6949954-05:00
Haroush what then if their retirement runs out as well? You don't seem very Christian. You seem very selfish and greedy when it is our place to take care of our fellow man, especially in a time when a person has worked and lost their job through an unforeseen circumstance. And many people have. You seem like you want to see those folks fail and writhe in the dirt because suddenly they are unworthy of a helping hand. I don't even understand that kind of mind set. In all your comments it reflects things like "only certain people", "the government should be keeping an eye on them" accusatory tones as if you are better than anyone else and you are the person who decides who DESERVES to feed their family, have shelter, water, and dignity. You have a very odd world view and a selfish one. Perhaps you should review the Torah about humanity and kindness? Or do you just not possess those human attributes and merely go through the motions of a man of faith?
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T20:16:47.2586264-05:00
He's jewish. Greed is in his nature, :D
howardzinn says2014-04-11T20:17:43.8082639-05:00
Ah, enough said.
Haroush says2014-04-11T20:27:15.7575693-05:00
Actually, the whole point of me NOT wanting certain people receiving unemployment benefits is because I am worried about those taxpayers who are already being taxed enough, but yet are struggling despite their efforts to keep their heads above the water. The point is, there is a point at which people should be personally responsible for their situations. So, I ask you when should it be that people become personally responsible for their own situations? There would still be plenty of help out there anyways. Not just from governmental programs, but from privatized organizations created to help people like these in a financial crisis.
Haroush says2014-04-11T20:32:41.9508424-05:00
Not to mention, there is websites where you can go to, explain your situation, and receive donations from people all over the world.
howardzinn says2014-04-11T20:37:01.9937272-05:00
Haroush I believe I get the gist of your idea. And I don't believe you are referring to someone who has lost their job. To be blatantly honest, you are referring to people who produce children out of wedlock that are unemployed, are uneducated, and have no means to support or nurture a child. The receive actual "hand outs". They get and advocate to help them with housing, WIC, food stamps, Medicaid, head start, "Give a Kid A Coat", free lunch, Free breakfast, after school care, SSI, and almost any other need you can imagine. And the "mother" has no incentive to get a job because if she does, she cannot live on 7.50 and hour and have all these amenities. And you cannot depend on "private" donations because they run out faster than a rabbit in a cabbage patch. Also, the "father' is not held responsible. Either Mom won't name him or she doesn't know. So whoever the dude da jur is, lives free in this public housing with the free utilities and so forth while the elderly, disabled, working poor and laid off are eating their cat's food and being looked down on an berated by people like you.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T20:39:04.6680052-05:00
And the people who apply for this are not eligible for handouts. They are people who naturally lost work, and are taxes will go towards reemploying them. It actually produces revenue, as the insurance money is going towards the government and not insurance companies. Along with the premium adjustments.
howardzinn says2014-04-11T20:40:13.8390938-05:00
Jifpop that is absolutely correct.
Haroush says2014-04-11T21:08:13.7561256-05:00
You are completely wrong here. I was referring to those people who mislead the government to thinking they are actually looking for jobs. Though since you want to bring up the general welfare of people... Let's go there.. First off, you want to try to throw a guilt trip on me just because I am Jewish. This is entirely wrong as this is why many Jews are liberals because of all the unnecessary criticism of them. Not to mention, anti semitic remarks. Though you tried this guilt trip on the wrong Jew. I am not one who falls for psychological games very easily. If you knew anything about me, you would have thought about things before you said it. Secondly, when it comes to poor people. Especially, those in poverty. I have much sympathy for them. At the same time, their success relies mainly on their own determination and will. This of course isn't including those with severe mental health issues. Let me give you a couple of examples of people who lived in poverty,but became successful (not because of the government) due to their own endeavors. Example one, Oprah Winfrey Example two, Benjamin Carson, Example three, Eminem, Example 4 Fifty Cent Example 5 Edgar Allen Poe Example 6 Ricky Lake Example 7 Benjamin Franklin Should I go on?? Thirdly, I personally wouldn't mind helping out someone who is poor, though everyone (including those already struggling) shouldn't have to struggle anymore because of someone else's situation. This just adds insult to injury. Tell me, why should a poor man working at McDonald's have to pay for someone who has been out of work over a year? It's simply ridiculous. Besides, I myself am poor and would be considered as living in poverty. The point is real success doesn't come from the government, but from the people themselves. Just look at Bill Gates and Stephen King. Perhaps you ought to look at this... Http://www.Huffingtonpost.Com/2013/09/25/successful-people-obstacles_n_3964459.Html
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T21:09:33.2230350-05:00
What don't you understand about insurance? You apply for this when you still have a job. This moots about everyone of your arguments.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T21:11:50.8939175-05:00
And the ad-homimems are pathetic. The Jew joke was obviously a joke, and I'm pretty sure you knew that. And its kind pf pathetic as I'm half jewish.
Haroush says2014-04-11T21:14:39.2351300-05:00
Extended benefits are benefits not paid for, Jif.
Haroush says2014-04-11T21:16:11.0255850-05:00
I wasn't talking about you Jif.. I was talking about how..
Jifpop09 says2014-04-11T21:16:22.1015300-05:00
I believe the bill requires payment on later dates. And the tier system is very well done. The amount of money received is progressive.
howardzinn says2014-04-12T19:57:52.1271289-05:00
Haroush I didn't make any anti Semitic remarks, stop looking for sympathy. And you are a contradiction. You say you are poor and then you rail against the poor. You insinuate most poor are that way because they don't do enough to make themselves and Oprah Winfrey, really, then what is your problem, why are you poor? I had absolutely nothing growing up and I make well over 300 thousand a year. So I guess in my eyes should look at you as scum and a lazy loafer that waste my tax money? And I am a fourth Jewish, so boo hoo. You are right I don't really know you except for the majority of your post are pious and judgmental and from a neo con viewpoint. Frankly your world view is extra ordinarily narrow and you have little self examination. You also have such a narcissistic personality it really is not worth anyone's time to comment with you. You seem to be bright and innovative, but you do have some self improvement and some things to learn about the world before you get so confident in how things work, but that is my humble opinion and I mean you no offense.
Haroush says2014-04-12T20:16:08.2973624-05:00
How, you are completely ridiculous. First you want to say I am looking for sympathy. Then you say I am a contradiction. Really? Maybe you need to go ask some people about me before you go running mouth. It was obvious you really believed that Jews are greedy in general. Besides a Jew wouldn't go talking about other Jews like that. There is a Jewish code and if you know nothing about it.. You aren't Jewish. I'm calling it as I see it and furthermore, you say I'm narrow minded and narcissistic.. Go look in the mirror and you'll see a good reflection of what you just called me. Now, please... Shut up and move on. Have some respect and if you don't want to deal with me fine go do as you please. If other people feel the way you do.. I don't care. Thank you and have a nice evening!
Jifpop09 says2014-04-12T22:52:32.5921374-05:00
Stop playing the Jew card. Its not working. The Jewish people are just normal people who usually can't even be told a part from the rest. And it seems YOUR generalizing your own ethnicity as well.
Haroush says2014-04-13T06:59:29.9885840-05:00
I don't even know why you even said anything.....

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