Should the ISIS flag be put on the South Carolina Capitol Building?

Posted by: triangle.128k

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triangle.128k says2015-06-28T15:02:43.5347180-05:00
It's a symbol of muslim pride!
triangle.128k says2015-06-28T15:03:06.2673554-05:00
Oh, and this poll is a genesisbait.
PetersSmith says2015-06-28T15:53:43.8082921-05:00
This can't even be compared to the Confederate flag, don't be stupid.
triangle.128k says2015-06-28T15:54:49.0019458-05:00
@PetersSmith Really? Because they both represent extremism and discrimination, just in different forms.
PetersSmith says2015-06-28T16:07:41.0808053-05:00
Triangle.128k: Incorrect. The ISIS flag represents a Islamic radical terrorist group that desires genocide of Christians and certain ethnicities. It also has no connection with the United States in any way shape or form, and it would make absolutely no sense to be placed on the South Carolina Capitol Building. It is completely ignorant to presume that the Confederate flag represents slavery, and instead represents Southern pride, state's rights, and heritage. If you actually know history, you'd realize that by around 1885, the Confederates were planning on abolishing slavery. And before the Civil War, Confederate generals were thinking about employing black soldiers along with guaranteeing their freedom. Now let's move on to the Nazi flag. The Nazi flag represents an ideology, specifically an Anti-Semitic one where a history of genocide is connected to it. Any one who uses the Nazi flag as "heritage" should realize that, in being proud of it, you are in fact supporting the Nazi ideology of Adolf Hitler, and thus racism and genocide. Waving the Confederate flag, on the other hand, does NOT mean you support slavery. Even if you argue that it does, the history connected the Nazi and ISIS flags are much more radical and have many more deaths connected to it.
Forthelulz says2015-06-28T16:08:55.8486310-05:00
Thank you, Peters Smith.
triangle.128k says2015-06-28T16:49:56.3548194-05:00
@PetersSmith Even if the confederacy would have abolished slavery at some point, it's undoubtful that there would be discrimination laws against people of African ethnicity. Even so, the confederate flag is a sign of anti-americanism. The confederacy wanted to rebel from the Union and have their own little country under a system of confederacy. By waving a confederate flag, you're pretty much saying "Screw US, let's rebel and form our own confederate styled country."
triangle.128k says2015-06-28T16:52:45.5414743-05:00
A confederate flag is pretty much an anti-federalist symbol, federalism is a vital part of how the USA functions. Confederacy was also tried earlier in the original 13 states under the Articles of Confederation. However, the articles of confederation were a complete failure and a joke. There's a reason why we trashed the Articles of Confederation and wrote the new constitution. A confederate flag is simply degrading progress that we've made hundreds of years ago.
triangle.128k says2015-06-28T16:53:41.0190679-05:00
And even so, this poll is clear satire if you didn't notice.
komododragon8 says2015-06-28T18:04:02.8502554-05:00
Peter: I highly doubt that the confederate states would be planning to abolish slavery seeing how the right to own slaves was written into the permanent confederate constitution. (https://cwemancipation.Wordpress.Com/2011/03/11/slavery-in-the-permanent-constitution/) There is also this quote by the confederate vice president: "They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.” Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition" (http://teachingamericanhistory.Org/library/document/cornerstone-speech/) I would also like to see where you got the information on how the confederate states were planning to abolish slavery on their own, preferably a primary source document by one of its leaders.
58539672 says2015-06-28T18:45:14.1646845-05:00
@komododragon8 Slavery was becoming economically inefficient. Eventually the CSA would have had to change over to a different system if they wanted to keep up with the rest of the world. They still would have discriminated black people though.
komododragon8 says2015-06-28T19:04:55.4576965-05:00
58539672: Yes the larger plantations would have become more inefficient as newer technology came but slaves would still be used to operate those machines. Simply put slavery is economicly advantagous for whoever is using it as they dont need to pay wages. Slaves would also still be kept as domestic servants and on smaller plantations which couldnt afford new technology. There is also the fact that enslavement was a social order in the south as shown by the vice presidents speech, and many people actually thought that black people were better off in chains. While slavery would eventually be banned due to pressure from the free states and from the British Empire, it would still take much longer. Ultimatly the South would continue slavery for a long time due to its size, social codes, and importance in cotton exports to European states. To be frank a violent military overthrow of the confederate states was the most efficient way of stopping slavery.
komododragon8 says2015-06-28T19:10:36.4178533-05:00
I just did a little more research and I found a source which argues that slavery was still very profitable and would most likely continue to be. Https://studycivilwar.Wordpress.Com/2013/05/12/was-slavery-on-the-way-out/
TBR says2015-06-28T20:07:24.7311851-05:00
The better question is, Should Illinois (most Muslim state) be allowed to vote to fly the ‘Black Standard'?
tajshar2k says2015-06-30T13:58:23.3314276-05:00
Hell No!

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