Should There be Some Form of Basic Income?

Posted by: BrendanD19

A basic income is a amount of money that every citizen, regardless of income, would be guaranteed every month or every year. This could be in the form of a check in the mail for a certain amount, or in the form of a negative income tax or in the form of a tax allowance. It was first proposed by Thomas Paine in Agrarian Justice (the idea exists in the form of Social Security), and has had supporters on the left like Martin Luther King Jr., and John Kenneth Galbraith, but also on the right, most notably Milto

  • Yes

  • No

55% 12 votes
45% 10 votes
  • For a person to work, he needs food and water. If he doesn't receive that unconditionally, then he is useless. If you want more economic growth, then we need more people working.

  • There should be a negative income tax, rather than overdosing on welfare.

  • everyone has the right to human dignity which requires a decent standard of living. A Basic income could bring this about.

  • Fukc the rich.

  • Yes, scarcity as well as obsolescence is built into the system to perpetuate profiteering. You would not only free up markets, but it would also bring about more democratic rule. Less crime as well.

  • Not for criminals.

    Posted by: 124275
  • I think there should be basic income because that way the Mexican illegal immigrants Donald Trump talks about will be motivated to become citizens so they can get money

    Posted by: wesbob
  • Sounds like more welfare. Who pays for this? There is no magic money fairy. Every penny that gets given to those who didn't earn it, was first forcibly taken from those who did.

  • OH HELL NO HE WHO SHALL NOT WORK SHALL NOT EAT

    Posted by: Jimbus
  • Who pays for those that don't work? What happens when the rich are no longer rich? Why should success be punished and laziness rewarded?

  • No. I don't have an issue of people donating, to help others, but I do have an issue with the government forcing you at gunpoint or under penalty of imprisonment to give up what is yours.

  • Sounds like welfare.

  • That is communism.

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BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T01:47:36.6088634Z
That was supposed to say Milton Friedman, just FYI. It cut it off early.
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T02:30:05.0434062Z
@idoubtit Did you not read the description? And again, Milton Friedman liked this
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T15:19:25.9977732Z
Anyone else noticing that the people who oppose this don't actually know what it is?
tajshar2k says2016-02-16T15:21:28.2425076Z
Just curious, but why do you support it?
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T15:27:19.8755236Z
"Everyone has the right to human dignity which requires a decent standard of living. A Basic income could bring this about." That is what I said in my vote.
tajshar2k says2016-02-16T15:28:27.8308660Z
Anything else? It seems more like an emotional argument.
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T15:34:24.3468072Z
It would end poverty, remove inefficiencies in the current welfare state, reduce household debt, and increase consumer spending if thats what you mean.
Heterodox says2016-02-16T16:15:55.7150868Z
@BrendanD19 It would not end poverty, it would simply move the line that we use to indicate what poverty is.
Heterodox says2016-02-16T16:17:54.9645444Z
@BrendanD19 Dignity is not a right.
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T17:03:10.2896826Z
So you as a human being do not have inherent worth, and worth is only determined by what you own?
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T17:05:12.6256668Z
@Heterodox do you even know what this is? A Basic Income could be a spending allowance, or a negative income tax, or it could be social security.
Heterodox says2016-02-16T18:03:01.7759048Z
@BrendanD19, There are two forms of social security that I am aware of SSI and SSDI. SSI is needs based, SSDI is basically like insurance (the more you pay in the more you take out). SSI takes from one group and gives to another, this is redistribution and I do not agree with that. However, there are a lot of bigger issues that I do not agree with that I would consider have a higher priority. Corporate welfare for one.
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T19:45:47.5594288Z
We are not talking about social security as it exists in the US. We are talking about the CONCEPT of social security. Https://en.Wikipedia.Org/wiki/Social_security
ho11yw00d says2016-02-16T19:48:47.2289884Z
Fukc Death23
BrendanD19 says2016-02-16T19:51:18.0631474Z
@Heterodox again, it could also be in the form of a spending allowance, or a negative income tax (which was advocated by Milton Friedman)
BrendanD19 says2016-02-17T14:11:57.1645301Z
@themightyindividual so was Milton Friedman a communist? What about the FairTax movement?
Heterodox says2016-02-17T21:33:37.4709392Z
@BrendanD19 Nobody has the right to steal from one person and give to another, I know our government (USA) does it all the time, but they are violating the natural laws to do so.
BrendanD19 says2016-02-18T04:47:20.0612876Z
@Heterodox again, what about a negative income tax
Heterodox says2016-02-18T05:04:14.2626489Z
@BrendanD19, I don't agree with taxes to begin with. Is theft to begin with.
themightyindividual says2016-04-14T04:41:30.8046380Z
Exactly how much of my hard-earned money do you have a right to?
BrendanD19 says2016-04-14T13:46:57.2278502Z
Everyone would get it

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