Since we're working with Al-Qaeda in several conflicts, are they still our enemies?

Posted by: ChosenWolff

  • Yes, they want to implement a sharia state, and that's not very Murican

  • The enemy of my enemy is thy friend

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  • Working with Al-Qaida can be justifiable, but so is conspiring with one's enemy. Hitler conspired with Stalin to reclaim his old lands, then broke his back right afterwards in Operation Barbarossa. Stalin conspired with his "Right Bolsheviks" before attacking them for being reactionaries in his purges. The US sold arms to Iran to fund the Contra War, then imposed sanctions on Iran again. This concept of "liberty" however is still American; Al-Qaida hates liberty and wants to impose Sharia. That is not American. Anything that goes against the common liberty of the common man are considered evil by the Americans; many Americans did object the US entrance into WWI as they saw the Brits and the Baguette eating ppl as imperialist oppressors. But this concept of conspiring with enemies, then back breaking them, is not new to history.

    Posted by: Kc1999
  • Abe Lincoln is correct here. This type of foreign policy is infallible. I'll reference Saudi Arabia here. Given the polar opposites of our two cultures, they were once our enemies at one point believe it or not. They've implemented dozens of reforms including local elections, women suffrage, ect. Instead of going on unrealistic dreams of America's number one "threat", we can work with our so called enemies. This doesn't need to just include Al-Qaeda. Think of the possibilities if we lifted sanctions with Sudan, Cuba, and Venezuela. It turns out we agree with more than we disagree on. That's true for all of society. We all have the same end goal in mind.

  • thy friend? isn't it my friend?

  • Al-Qaeda has always been a friend of America.... until we kept bombing their houses

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Juan_Pablo says2014-07-16T05:38:48.7269773-05:00
You're mistaken. The U.S. is not working with Al Queda.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-16T05:39:13.4357258-05:00
I don't get how Al-Qaeda are our enemies anymore. They've got their asses kicked in Afghanistan and Mali, so they're not hurting us there. But when we look at the places they're not fighting alongside Turkey and allies with, it's quite numerous. Who's fighting Houthis in Yemen? Ansar al-Sharia Who's fighting Assad in Syria? Al Nusra. Who's fighting the Christian militias in the DRC? Al-Shabaab.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-16T05:39:50.2061832-05:00
I'm not mistaken. Our foreign policy alligns with their goals. I can give you a million examples.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-16T05:41:39.4829258-05:00
@Juan Pablo - Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, DRC
1814Username says2014-07-16T06:17:30.1027720-05:00
We created Al-Qaeda in 1979 using CIA money. Who are we really kidding? It is so funny how people hear of a terrorist group on TV but never really consider who is behind the terrorist group. At the end of the day, our wars change nothing and it only makes certain people wealthy.
Cold-Mind says2014-07-16T07:02:26.3418143-05:00
You are mistaken. Al-Qaeda are friends of American government, and American government is the greatest enemy of American people.
Preston says2014-07-16T07:45:25.4782536-05:00
No it isn't! The enemy of the American people is incompetence, inactivity, and slothfulness
Kc1999 says2014-07-16T07:54:20.1783106-05:00
You guys (da US) worked with the bloody commies. So now they're your friends?
Preston says2014-07-16T07:55:32.2563921-05:00
They aren't commies you silly
Kc1999 says2014-07-16T07:56:21.9264737-05:00
No its an analogy with how you guys worked with the Soviet Union
Preston says2014-07-16T08:10:55.1702519-05:00
That's a crap analogy, if it even is one, its like saying "wow these oranges are sweet" but its an analogy for how oranges taste sweet.
1814Username says2014-07-16T11:15:57.9206545-05:00
Who are we kidding.? We created Al-Qaeda. Do you really think we abandoned our 3 BILLION dollar initiative with them? Here is the bottom line --- Americans have no idea who is actually pulling the strings of anything. I will give you a hint though --- who ever finances things are pulling strings. CIA created al-Qaeda and gave $3 BILLION to Osama bin Laden The US government trained, armed, funded and supported Osama bin Laden and his followers in Afghanistan during the cold war. With a huge investment of $3,000,000,000 (three billion US dollars), the CIA effectively created and nurtured bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network using American tax-payers money. Afghanistan is one of the world's poorest countries, where such an enormous sum sum of money would have had extraordinary value. BBC news article: "...Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. He received security training from the CIA itself." Forbes business information service article: "...[Osama bin Laden] received military and financial assistance from the intelligence services of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the United States." ABC News article: "In the 1980s, bin Laden left his comfortable Saudi home for Afghanistan to participate in the Afghan jihad, or holy war, against the invading forces of the Soviet Union - a cause that, ironically, the United States funded, pouring $3 billion into the Afghan resistance via the CIA."
Preston says2014-07-16T11:17:43.6972074-05:00
1814 no one is refuting that, remember the reason we did was to help them fight the soviet union, not to form al-Qaida
debate_power says2014-07-16T14:00:03.0207726-05:00
@Cold-Mind The American government is the enemy of everyone!
ChosenWolff says2014-07-16T14:02:04.9815726-05:00
Where do you think that 500 million to Syria is going? Al Nusra. The only reason the legislation passed is because Al Nusra is now in war with ISIS.

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