If they were born with a penis, they can use the men's restroom. If they were born with a vagina, they can use the women's restroom. If they were born with both or neither, they can use either.
If they were born with a penis, they can use the men's restroom. If they were born with a vagina, they can use the women's restroom. If they were born with both or neither, they can use either. - Voter Comments
This "oh I feel like a girl" is like saying I feel like a 70 year old man when I'm really an 18 year old high school student. If we make a trans bathroom law, why don't we make a law that says you can apply for retirement benefits if you feel like you're 70? It's the same logic. Or I can assume I'm 21 and buy alcohol. Shouldn't we base everything off "feelings" if this transgender bathroom law becomes a thing?
Oh i get it, then I'm really 70 since it is my natural age it it differs from my actual age, so why don't I go and get some retirement benefits, alcohol, and run for president even though I'm 18? But I'm 70! Its my natural age!
David reamer was given a sex change at birth. He was originally male. He was turned female. It was revealed that he was bio male after his behavior and mannerisms were more masculine than feminine. It's not an assumption. It's proven fact. Gender and sex are independent.
But does he have the female sex organs? Does he have the characteristics of a female? Does he have higher levels of estrogen then testosterone? If someone is born female they're female, same as for male
But, he was raised one. And yet he turned out male. And reverted to his former gender. He killed himself as a result of the depression that took over his life as a female. He knew he was male from age 6. Before hormonnes could affect his mind
@TheChristian, The story you told, about a guy born a man but being mutilated at birth and then being raised as a woman and growing up to realize he is a man that has been mutilated, says that genders are tied to sex (essentially the opposite of what you are trying to use the story to say).
@TheChristian, Are you even thinking about this? He was born a man, mutilated, raised as a woman, but thought he was a man. How do you not see the link between him being born a man and him thinking he is a man?
@TheChristian I think this source definitely supports the biological basis of both transgender people and cisgender people by discussing the effects of chromosomes versus hormones exposed as fetuses. It also mentions a study looking at 14 biological males with a similar situation to David Reimer; despite all being raised as female, some of them identified as female, some as male, most were unsure.
I don't support transgender rights (unless they're like basic human rights such as being able to get a job without discrimination) But if you "feel" like a woman or man and want to transition, then fine. You have the right to do so. However, I just don't support transgender bathroom rights. Many people- even those who support transgender rights can feel uncomfortable with a trans in their bathroom. Other's are okay with it and I get that. If anything, they should use a gender neutral or disabled bathroom if the place has one or places could provide transgender bathrooms. However if a majority of the people in that place are comfortable with your presence in their bathroom, that's their concern.
@SegBeg, Being able to get a job because you weren't discriminated against, isn't a right. Now, in the US, the law makes discriminating based on certain things illegal (in the hiring of employees or even the servicing of customers). However, I would argue that being able to discriminate, for any reason, who you hire at your own business is a natural human right. And that any laws to the contrary are oppressive; even if they were made with "good" intentions.
No matter how many surgeries anyone can have, they can never fully "change genders"
Women will never have testicles, and guys will never have boobs and/or a uterus. Don't be immature about what I just said, it's logic and common sense. If you are confused about your gender, talk to someone and get help. Don't try to "Change" your gender just because your mind thinks it's the opposite. Respect yourself and stay the gender you were born in.
Also, my state just passed a law allowing tans people to use opposite bathrooms, God help us all. And I mean it. This whole transgender thing is getting way out of hand. Fellow believers, please pray for this country.