USA and its allies support terrorism when benefits them!

Posted by: shalal12

USA wanna remove Assad and the legal government of Syria to support Israel and uses any shameful way to reach its goal.The terrorists in Syria kill innocent people, ruin the cities and rape girls using the weapons which USA gives them. Yesterday USA dropped 50 tones of weapons to moderate terrorists. They will kill and rape moderately!

  • Yes! USA supports terrorists. And of course fights them when needed

  • NO ways. It's propaganda!

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22% 5 votes
  • They did it with the Taliban during the Cold War wouldn't be surprised if it was the case again with the Syrian war.

  • I'll be honest we have done it before. There is no point in saying we haven't when we did during the cold war.

  • In the past definitely yes, in the present Im not sure if we still do but it is a possibility.

  • We have before, but I don't like how someone named "shalal12" with very obvious English spelling difficulties can criticise the Western side when their side most likely support terrorism or have terrorist groups within them.

  • The Iran-Contra scandal. School of the Americas.

  • First time I'm agreeing with this guy, but I'm disgusted by our support for that filth known as Saudi Arabia.

  • If you recall a few years ago one of the main causes of tensions in the middle east was during the oil embargo with King Faisal, who kept very close relations with the US even with the uprising of communism and radical organizations at the time. They had an agreement with them, as long as they kept the oil flowing to the US, they would have weapons for days. I'm sure agreements like this have and continue to occur to this day.

    Posted by: M31
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triangle.128k says2015-10-12T17:33:57.4711808Z
Why aren't you going against Turkey or the UK for supporting the rebels? Oh wait, I couldn't expect anything better from someone who supports their oppressive theocratic government of Iran.
shalal12 says2015-10-12T17:42:05.7022511Z
@triangle.128k Be a little bit logical! How Asad is doesn't justify supporting terrorism. Talking about Turkey, UK and Iran also doesn't help!
Vox_Veritas says2015-10-12T18:00:02.1791936Z
The FSA doesn't have a spotless record, but if I recall correctly even the UN admitted that the crimes against humanity committed by the FSA don't even come close to matching the horrors committed by the Assad regime. Since the ISIL is about as bad as Assad that means that the FSA is the least evil faction (don't know about the Kurds though; they could be better than the FSA but I don't think so, seeing as how I've heard stories about the PKK using child soldiers). The US's current actions in Syria are at least somewhat humanitarian.
UtherPenguin says2015-10-12T18:04:15.3720626Z
Assad's regime needs to get toppled, yet as of now that doesn't seem like the most realistic option. It would only further de-stabilize the region.
Vox_Veritas says2015-10-12T18:06:51.4374638Z
Assad literally runs concentration camps in his country!
UtherPenguin says2015-10-12T18:09:58.3446581Z
@Vox Exactly, he deserves nothing less than an execution. But if Assad's government gets overthrown, there's little chance that any faction in particular would be able to maintain power, hence dissolving the country.
tajshar2k says2015-10-12T20:11:26.5738121Z
The U.S supports Saudi Arabia, because it has oil. Even though it is one of the worst things on this planet.
triangle.128k says2015-10-12T20:21:47.1828430Z
Allahu ackbar!
Vox_Veritas says2015-10-12T20:44:41.6390236Z
Saudi Arabia is an Islamic theocracy. It has been a theocracy for the past (nearly) 1400 years and it was the birthplace of Islam. What's wrong with that? If only a few nations are Islamic theocracies and there's plenty of left over non-Islamic land, what's wrong with the occasional Islamic theocracy?
triangle.128k says2015-10-12T20:55:31.0097620Z
@Vox_Veritas Well let's see, irreligion is punishable by death. Converting from Islam in Saudi Arabia is also punishable by death, women are forced into hiding themselves. Women are given unequal rights and banned from driving, there's few things for entertainment in KSA because of extreme Islam. Stating your opinion against the Saudi government also will land you to be lashed and imprisoned.
58539672 says2015-10-12T21:26:20.0353195Z
@Vox_Veritas Saudi Arabia isn't a theocracy. It is an absolute monarchy. The king, not the priesthood, has all the power.
Anonymous says2015-10-12T22:07:45.2567113Z
I believe that we should support Bashar al-Assad for, though he has been accused of harming his own people, I believe it is better to, "Hold hands with the devil than to face death himself." I quote president Roosevelt for the Syrian rebels are linked to multiple terrorist organizations, mostly from ISIS, and would rather hold hands with the devil that is Assad than help the Rebels. Though I say we should help Assad, it really contradicts my views on clinging to isolationism (which most of the United States is returning to) and how we really should not be involved in the middle east at all. War has been a poison on a dagger in that region for a many of years and the removal of Saddam Hussain was not good to begin with. Saddam would have been slightly more of a blessing than Bashar. (Two separate countries I know this.) I apologize for this.
Forthelulz says2015-10-12T22:38:34.9218811Z
Would you "death to America" types cut it out? If you keep it up, someone in power will snap and dish a little death FROM America, and not take in the refugees from that event either.
UtherPenguin says2015-10-12T23:03:35.6863414Z
@bballcrook21 Oh look the bigot is back
tajshar2k says2015-10-12T23:51:48.2380611Z
The U.S should seriously practice an isolationist policy in the middle-east, after we no longer need oil. Like complete isolation. No military, no foreign aid, no refugees from that area. Leave them completely alone.
tajshar2k says2015-10-13T00:07:32.7517297Z
All you people who say FSA are good people. One, a whole chunk of them are now ISIS, and two they rape women and children. Stop listening to Fox News.
UtherPenguin says2015-10-13T00:13:53.9294599Z
@Tajshar2k If you want an isolationist policies than its best to leave the oil alone, other wise it's just exploitation.
tajshar2k says2015-10-13T00:16:13.3085158Z
Unfortunately, we need oil. It's not just greed, it's what keeps our economy, and the global economy atop. Exploitation, well that is true, but it's necessary .
UtherPenguin says2015-10-13T00:16:59.1098222Z
@tajshar2k If you want isolationist policies than it's best to leave the oil alone. Going into a region and extracting resources while ignoring everything else is not isolation, it's exploitation.
tajshar2k says2015-10-13T00:19:19.1645143Z
Sure, whatever you need to call it. Normally, I would feel bad exploiting people, but the middle-east is such a place where I feel no remorse what so ever. I realize you are muslim yourself, and you would disagree, but that is how I feel.
The_American_Sniper says2015-10-13T00:24:09.8917051Z
The middle-east seriously is the personification of anti-freedom, anti-democracy, anti-gay, anti-peace anti-women's right . The list can go on forever.
1994XF04 says2015-10-13T01:24:19.0679110Z
USA, Britain, Canada, France, Germany...All of them puppets of Israel.
shalal12 says2015-10-13T17:33:09.2831766Z
@1994XF04 I just wonder when Americans regard Israel as a support and ally in the middle east. USA has entered many conflicts because of Israel and it has gained so much hater form Middle Easterns and has lost billions of dollars. Their whole economy ,media ,market and POLITICS are basically controlled by rich Zionist lobbies. And surprisingly they regard Israel as a friend. In the next decades USA will not be the world's top power, neither in economics nor in military fields, as Israel makes so many countries into an "anti-American" country. Just look to Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon their market is almost closed to Americans and widely open for Russia and China.
1994XF04 says2015-10-13T17:58:35.4552715Z
@shalal12 All this puts me on edge because I have a feeling the Reds don't have good intentions for this either as I know Jews are master manipulators and communism is originally a Jewish problem. I saw "The Day Israel attacked America" recently and it just confirmed my suspicions further. The Jews held roughly 2/3 of all congress seats by the balls and had code names for people on their payroll which included the president way back in 1967. The Jews believe their blood is too sacred to throw in on anything that doesn't make them large returns. That said I don't think the US is going to fall behind in tech quite so easily. There's a lot of stuff still on eyes only files that say otherwise.
bballcrook21 says2015-10-13T22:46:17.1560209Z
A good Muslim is a dead one... Just saying.
UtherPenguin says2015-10-14T12:35:39.2518486Z
@Tajshar2k That type of mentality would only lead to more hate and atrocities.
UtherPenguin says2015-10-14T12:38:31.6351636Z
@bbalcrook21 So you essentially support genocide?
tajshar2k says2015-10-15T02:48:50.7043085Z
"That type of mentality would only lead to more hate and atrocities." You know, we are already doing that right? Regardless of our military intervention. Business will resume as usual.
bballcrook21 says2015-10-15T03:01:17.5760646Z
I don't see killing Muslims as genocide. I see it as pest control. Also, it's the same thing with freedom of religion. Just change Islam from being a religion to being the savage death cult it is, so the 1st Amendment no longer applies. Then you can put all those pigs in camps and gas them down. If only Hitler had done what he did but to Muslims instead, probably would be one of my heroes, even if he is an authoritarian.
UtherPenguin says2015-10-15T03:11:42.2744778Z
@bballcrook21 Oh I'm sorry, I've made the terrible mistake of thinking I could reason with genocidal bigots such as yourself. Thank God most people with basic human decency have moved past the days when holocaust-like atrocities were seen as acceptable. Unlike you of course. Today you hate on Muslims, tomorrow you hate on blacks and jews, I suppose other minorities will come next then?
bballcrook21 says2015-10-15T03:17:46.9314903Z
There once was a great day when jokes were not taken seriously. I still find Islam to be a disgusting and filthy religion, but I don't hate ALL Muslims. Just like 99% of them. I say 99% because I've met only 1 Muslim who is a decent human being, and he wouldn't be a Muslim if his parents weren't one either.
UtherPenguin says2015-10-15T03:21:36.7395096Z
@bballcrook21 You support the First Ammendment and American Constitution yet still support fading other people because you found their religion as "filthy". If that is not beyond hypocritial the I don't know what is.
tajshar2k says2015-10-15T15:41:48.3875819Z
I think Bballcrook is being too extreme, as much as I find a lot of muslims annoying, arrogant, and demanding, none of them deserve being Halocausted.

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