Was the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Justified because of 'Property Rights' ?

Posted by: briantheliberal

This poll was inspired by a fellow Conservative DDO user who claimed Europeans stealing land from the Natives was justifiable because they didn't believe in 'property rights'. So I must ask, was shipping human beings like imported goods over the Atlantic, forcing them to work for no pay and considering them as less than human justifiable because they were considered property of the owner?

  • Yes, 'Property Rights' justify owning other human beings.

  • No, 'Property Rights' do not trump human rights.

29% 4 votes
71% 10 votes
  • Though the slave owners thought it was justified as it wasa good economic choice and the south needed slaves to keep their economy up and keep with the high deman of goods from Europe, but by today's standards, no, it's not justified.

    Posted by: Itani
  • Human beings cannot become property in the sense that a good such as a can of soup or a box of matches or a car can. Humans are the only thing other than the atmosphere that cannot become privatised.

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MentalSpeed says2015-04-12T21:14:42.5236309-05:00
Just remember since blacks had low mental speed they were conquered easily by Europeans so anything is fair game since blacks were naturally not selective to beat whites
TBR says2015-04-12T21:15:27.4663889-05:00
@MentalSpeed - I so wish people would stop bastardizing what natural selection is.
briantheliberal says2015-04-12T21:15:41.2812149-05:00
"blacks had low mental speed" - No, actually it's because they didn't have guns.
briantheliberal says2015-04-12T21:16:31.6994453-05:00
TBR, apparently people love using natural selection to justify inhumane atrocities.
heil37 says2015-04-12T21:19:01.3785668-05:00
You know whats more ironic? It's blacks that actually enslaved blacks. Whites only bought them.
FuzzyCatPotato says2015-04-12T21:20:54.2267966-05:00
While true, blacks only enslaved blacks in the scale they did *because* whites bought them. It was a natural business cycle of imprisonment and extortion. How lovely.
MentalSpeed says2015-04-12T21:21:07.6737380-05:00
Duh blacks didnt have guns because they had no mental speed
heil37 says2015-04-12T21:21:15.3799898-05:00
So stop scapegoating Europeans for this. By the time Europeans were buying the slaves, the Africans had already lost their freedom to....Other Africans. So whether or not Europeans bought them, they were already slaves
MentalSpeed says2015-04-12T21:22:03.4114661-05:00
But you publicly shame religion so why are you so critical of moral objectivity? If there is no god then who are you to tell me my view of morals is wrong?
briantheliberal says2015-04-12T21:22:49.4149814-05:00
Aside from the obvious bias and lies in your statement heil, nothing about this poll was about race. But I know racists like you just have to make everything about race.
AlexAnCom says2015-04-12T21:22:50.6785615-05:00
Private property is fundamentally a flawed concept. To quote Peter Kropotkin, "Science and industry, knowledge and application, discovery and practical realization leading to new discoveries, cunning of brain and of hand, toil of mind and muscle--all work together. Each discovery, each advance, each increase in the sum of human riches, owes its being to the physical and mental travail of the past and the present. By what right then can any one whatever appropriate the least morsel of this immense whole and say--This is mine, not yours?"
heil37 says2015-04-12T21:23:55.5520254-05:00
@Fuzzy the problem with that is once Europe and America banned slavery, many Africans were upset that they lost business and slavery while no longer practiced in America continued in Africa. Africans kept enslaving each other while it was illegal in America, African slavery didn't stop until Europeans 'colonized' Africa and liberated those slaves
heil37 says2015-04-12T21:27:28.9148063-05:00
Oh yeah let's not forget Inca and Aztec were enslaving weaker tribes and offering them up for blood rituals so according tho your argument they'd be equally immoral. It's just that the Europeans were better at what they do.
CyberConor says2015-04-13T17:48:10.5660262-05:00
Slavery is immoral, but don;t blame the europeans. The african tribes fought and captured each other, and sold each other. It is equally african tribes and europeans fault.
briantheliberal says2015-04-17T19:46:10.0001519-05:00
I didn't really blame the Europeans, but there is no denying that they are the main cause of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. They initiated it and paid Africans to help them capture other Africans. But the question itself isn't about Europeans or Africans, it's about slavery and property rights.

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