Was Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) A Good Leader?

Posted by: Knaveslayer99

Lenin was the leader of the Russian Revolution which saw the overthrow of the Tsar and installed the USSR as Government. Lenin did many questionable things such as an attempt to invade Poland but did some good things like giving gays rights.

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Vox_Veritas says2016-09-06T16:31:46.6217507Z
After the Russian revolution a democratic government had been installed in Russia. Lenin overthrew this government through an extremely bloody civil war and established a tyrannical regime which would come to be responsible for the deaths of millions and the oppression of hundreds of millions.
Vox_Veritas says2016-09-06T16:32:46.5093829Z
Giving dudes the right to have sex with other dudes did not even come close to making up for what he did.
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-06T16:48:44.1735235Z
The government never truly had a democratic government and Lenin knew this so he overthrew the government yes he did some bad things but when your trying to stabilize a government that isn't run by a monarchy and is surrounded by monarchies. Your going to face some harsh decisions keep in mind what happened to the French when Napoleon came to power. Lenin did what was best for his people the best way he could given that the new government was attacked from all sides he gave gays rights, opened up free market for workers who demanded it etc. He was a brilliant leader who had to lead during dark times and make choices even he didn't want to choose also blaming Lenin for the "tyrannical regime" is like blaming Jesus for the crusade. Lenin had no desire for the USSR to turn into a totalitarian regime that Stalin created Lenin even tried to warn the Bolsheviks about Stalin and how power hungry he was and failed. Don't blame Lenin for what happened later on during the rule of the USSR he had no desire for it to become such a mess and betrayal of what he wanted it to be.
Vox_Veritas says2016-09-06T16:54:52.7798510Z
A "Russian Republic" was established after the abdication of Tsar Nicholas on March 15, 1917. The communists even had representation in this new government. But that wasn't enough for them; they would've been satisfied with nothing less than a full soviet government.
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-06T16:57:06.7839889Z
The new government was just as corrupt as the old one and when they tried to stage a coup they had to ask the Bolsheviks for help in which Lenin overthrew the government overnight and replaced the corrupt government with a new government.
Vox_Veritas says2016-09-06T16:59:07.8726862Z
And no, there was no "free market" in Lenin's Russia. Everything was collectivised.
Knaveslayer99 says2016-09-06T17:01:34.6567402Z
Lenin opened up a free market in the early years of his government to help out the workers demanding it I never stated that it lasted but Lenin did try his best to help the workers and his people while still stabilizing his government. I always found this video to be a good Rep of Lenin it brings out the good and bad of who he was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N8hsXQapjY
Throwback says2016-09-06T19:19:53.9512723Z
Lenin, the great humanitarian. What a benevolent man, always willing to sacrifice his own happiness for the benefit of his fellow man. People who think that way are history revisionists. He was a selfish, brutal, hate filled monstrosity of the human race. Revisionism does not alter it.
Gareth_BM says2016-09-06T20:35:31.3635952Z
Firstly, Lenin's enemies all agreed he was genuinely believed in his cause unlike say Stalin who definitely didn't. I don't not think this made him a good leader though. He actively suppressed democracy as he believed it would help stability and he killed a large number of people. He did however significantly improve the lives of many in Russia and its hard to say if his civil war with the whites killed more or less people than continuing with their part in world war one. While there were periods during the war where food was difficult to come by he did make a genuine effort and things were better under than the Czar. Its hard to know if he lied about wanting to let the minority countries within imperial Russia break away or if he changed his mind and if he intended on giving them autonomy later or keeping them permanently. After all he did betray his anarchist allies. So while I think he wasn't a good leader he clearly wasn't all bad and certainly doesn't deserve to be compared to the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Moa.
ThePostMarxist says2016-09-19T08:17:53.4090773Z
Yes. He freed the people and established a more democratic system. Stalin was the dictator

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