What do Anti-Religious do about parenting?

Posted by: uahshdyy

When I say Anti-Religious, I mean; Anarchiasts, Liberals, Paleoliberals, Atheists, Agnostics, Naturalists, Neutralists, Irreligious, Polyatheists, Secularists, Darwinists, and ALL who OPPOSE religion what they do about religion with their kids. I prefer someone who comes from an Anti-Religious family

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Anti Religious parents give their children options to religion if they want to join

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Anti Religious parents force their anti religious views on them

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reece says2015-07-30T10:46:09.4673607Z
@uahshdyy Instead of asking them if they want to join a religion; how about asking them "What do you believe?"
uahshdyy says2015-07-30T10:52:11.7503024Z
@reece what do you man by 'them'
reece says2015-07-30T10:56:46.4140636Z
@uahshdyy I accidentally added your name. But anyway, 'them' meaning children.
Donderpants says2015-07-30T11:58:40.4150706Z
@The_Giver_Of_Truth This is about anti religious parents. Why, why I ask you should they strive for their children to be Christian?
uahshdyy says2015-07-30T12:26:39.9842370Z
@reece my Mom & Dad NEVER in/directly mentioned or hinted towards religion to me so I don't know how exactly 'the bubby do you believe there's an invisible omnipotent creator that designs all life' conversation.
Midnight1131 says2015-07-30T12:42:35.9271648Z
Why do you put "liberal" into the "anti-religious" category?
reece says2015-07-30T13:25:55.7150300Z
Because liberals are secular when it comes to religion and politics. It seems like conservatives want a theocracy.
triangle.128k says2015-07-30T14:01:33.3878910Z
@Reece That's pretty stereotypical. There are plenty of conservative atheists and liberal Christians.
triangle.128k says2015-07-30T14:04:17.7849495Z
If Darwinists are people that believe in Evolution, than that doesn't mean that they're irreligious. "Anti-religious" is the wrong term for this. OP should have referred to these people as "irreligious."
reece says2015-07-30T14:04:19.2725963Z
@triangle.128k There is some truth in my statement.
reece says2015-07-30T14:05:15.6825579Z
I think he meant that.
triangle.128k says2015-07-30T14:05:54.9324095Z
@reece Because of a few radicals, you think conservatism and theocracy is the same thing. Look at South Korea, their population is pretty irreligious yet they're right wing leaning.
reece says2015-07-30T14:18:51.1933855Z
@triangle.128k Never mind. I shouldn't of said "There is some truth in my statement." You misinterpreted what i said. I wasn't implying conservatism is the same thing as a theocracy. I was meaning that conservatives are pushing for legislation's that a theocratic based country would push. I'm talking about American conservatism btw.
TBR says2015-07-30T14:47:50.3861341Z
My son will have any option open to him. It is one of the prime differences - We allow actual free-thinking.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-30T17:15:47.4545632Z
Do you really allow free thinking? Right after you allow him to choose youre going to go on denouncing Christians and say how foolish they are to follow their religion etc etc. That sort of criticism on what your son potentially just chose is enough of a barrier to free thinking as any.
TBR says2015-07-30T17:19:18.8567606Z
@FreedomBeforeEquality - That the choice is allowed and encouraged is enough. I don't have to believe it too. The flip-side is religious that punish, shun and worse to the children that would dare reject the religion of the parents.
TBR says2015-07-30T17:20:23.7063763Z
Go to a Unitarian church some time. You will see children with as deserve opinions about religion as the parents.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-30T18:58:24.6320743Z
So it all sounds like two sides of the same coin to me. I dont know that there is even room for that in parenting. Kids are a direct reflection of their parents abilities in parenting. If they come to the conclusion that there is something worth believing in ... It won't be from thin air.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-30T19:00:10.5411532Z
Do you encourage the choice for them to make life changing mistakes often? Or do you steer them away from what you already know to be false (or true) and save them the hassle ... So they dont have to waste a lifetime figuring out what you already know and can do something higher with their lives.
58539672 says2015-07-30T20:20:30.6637963Z
Children often follow in the footsteps of their parents. Even if you are open in letting them believe what they want to believe, your opinion as the parent has an impact on the child's decision.
TBR says2015-07-30T20:38:45.3876446Z
FreedomBeforeEquality - It starts with opening yourself to the idea that you may be wrong. I am satisfied that I am right, but under no delusion that I can not be wrong. Get it?
uahshdyy says2015-07-31T01:31:13.0672663Z
@triangle.128k If you are a Darwinist you're an Evolutionist: Darwinists/Evolutionists believe that all life evolved from one/multiple life forms. Most of/all of the time that interferes/contradicts religion. Also Darwinism/Evolutionism is a theory w/out God. If you believed in Evolutionary aspects whilst being religious you'd be a CREATIONISTS Therefore Darwinists are ATHEISTS and Atheists are ANTI RELIGIOUS
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T14:07:25.9993535Z
If you go into it like that why even procreate? Whats the point if you arent passing on your legacy of knowledge. If we have to start over every generation and kids have to learn from scratch where does that put us? Wheres the purpose in any of that?
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T14:11:31.9661302Z
If you were procreating with a purpose and had any intent of giving your child a better life than you had, you might want to help them along in their path. Yours sounds like its being animalistic and just hoping that they come to the proper outcomes on their own, all the while the rest of the world is impressing on them what you should have been. That sounds like utter failure to me.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T14:19:49.3129183Z
"It starts with opening yourself to the idea that you may be wrong." Who gets to say youre wrong? Everyone else? Youre basically letting all the people who care to impress values raise your kids for you, because they are out there. Playing the conscientious objector/observer in a parental role only leads to the rest of the world impressing those values. Does that automatically make them right and you wrong?
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T14:22:52.9572955Z
They wont be free from influence or free thinking, ever. Not in this world. If anyones influence should be passed to them, why shouldnt it be yours?
TBR says2015-07-31T14:50:42.1523954Z
'If you go into it like that why even procreate? Whats the point if you arent passing on your legacy of knowledge. If we have to start over every generation and kids have to learn from scratch where does that put us? Wheres the purpose in any of that?' - My knowledge of religion IS passed on. Its knowledge that my son will take and use as his own, not forced on him. Regardless, religion is a tiny part of life, my 'knowledge' is deeper than religion, and I get to talk to him about things I find importation very day.
TBR says2015-07-31T14:52:30.4950899Z
'If you were procreating with a purpose and had any intent of giving your child a better life than you had, you might want to help them along in their path. Yours sounds like its being animalistic and just hoping that they come to the proper outcomes on their own, all the while the rest of the world is impressing on them what you should have been. That sounds like utter failure to me.' - Guiding is fun. Pulling and forcing behavior is not. We each become our own people regardless, and calling that hope is true for the believer as much as the atheists.
TBR says2015-07-31T14:54:59.0080419Z
'Who gets to say youre wrong? Everyone else? Youre basically letting all the people who care to impress values raise your kids for you, because they are out there. Playing the conscientious objector/observer in a parental role only leads to the rest of the world impressing those values. Does that automatically make them right and you wrong?' - How on earth can you say that. It is RELIGION that is letting others tell you what is right and wrong. I tell myself when I am wrong. I can't understand religious people that insist on having someone run that show for them. You seem to think you NEED that authority. It is just not necessary.
TBR says2015-07-31T14:55:53.8111932Z
'They wont be free from influence or free thinking, ever. Not in this world. If anyones influence should be passed to them, why shouldnt it be yours?' - Free thinking is not without guidance. Its also not perfect. Regardless, its better than teaching dogma for the sake of teaching dogma.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T15:50:44.1062847Z
"I can't understand religious people that insist on having someone run that show for them. You seem to think you NEED that authority. It is just not necessary." Im actually talking about removing that authority to teach religion to my child from them. Yes I want that authority ... Its my child ... Not theirs.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T15:52:32.1525773Z
The rest of the world would be the one trying to impress religion on him ... And without your objection ... That is more likely to come true. Its a two way street. But I think though that you should be the one in control and not the rest of society in that regard. Preserving the rights of parents, as it were.
TBR says2015-07-31T16:03:10.5086693Z
Your religion - in this case - is the authority I speak of. The "state" that you fear so much, well we can all agree we don't want that force to be the teacher of religion. That is what we on the left are insisting on. Agnostic state. Let the individual decide. That too, on a smaller level, is what I am saying I want for my child. He can (and will) go through phases. One day he may think there is a god. I have no concern if he does. I would encourage him to explore that. If he comes out the other end saying, "yup I am sure of it" we can argue, but I have no interest in "reeducating" him in some authoritative way. "Get with the no-god, or you are OUT of this house" is not a sentence you are going to here from ME.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T16:40:24.9889928Z
Kicking them out might be extreme ... But letting them grow up with extremist beliefs and not doing something about it is where all these crazies come from.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-31T16:42:02.9888210Z
There are some things they have no business exploring. Things ive learned to be bad for them already. Things I dont think are a good use of their time to pursue. If I waiting to have a conversation much later about it it might be too late.
missmedic says2015-08-04T16:37:33.2525878Z
I do not force my views on my children, I let them choose, by encouraging them to use reason and critical thinking. I also read them the bible, because properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived. Leviticus has some of the best and scariest bed time stories. The bible also makes them ask questions, and we all know that questions and scrutiny are like cancer to religion.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-04T17:55:09.1397182Z
Oh im sure they ask questions ... And im sure youre right there with the answers to them aren't ya.

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