What should the US do about the defense budget?

Posted by: travis18352

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Cut spending

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Keep it the same

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Increase spending

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Jifpop09 says2014-04-02T17:53:30.9199288-05:00
People who wish to keep are military budget 640 b. Above China's 40 b. Are complete idiots. Do they have no common sense, or can they just not wrap their heads around excessive spending? Come on people, look at that chart and use your brains, and tell me that we aren't going a little overboard. Currently, if the 12 highest spending military budget nations combined forces against us, we would still spend more then all of them combined. I mean, I literally think these people are the stupidest waste of space on this earth -_-. 680 billion dollars of expenses is literally enough to hold and conquer all of South America, Caribbea, and Oceania.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-02T17:59:30.1413912-05:00
I also looked at the voters, and realized two conservatives agree with lowering the budget. This is very good news, that even people on the right are seeing the harm of such excessive spending. Usually I notice that most republicans blindly agree with anything on the party platform, but I guess I was proved wrong.
Conservative101 says2014-04-02T18:00:35.3810094-05:00
I thought we were the ones who wanted to cut spending?
Jifpop09 says2014-04-02T18:03:51.8486688-05:00
No, the republican party wants to keep spending the same. Which is incredibly stupid considering the statistics I provided in the ^^ post. The tea party is ridiculous, as they want cut backs, but they wont let anyone touch the military budget. We spend half of the worlds money on military. HALF of the worlds money on one nations military. We spend more on military then the TWELVE countries below us.
ararmer1919 says2014-04-02T18:33:41.6013415-05:00
I'm sorry but the in my opinion the argument that since we spend more then other nations then we spend to much is an extremely poor argument and downright irrelevant and it is an argument that, usually knowingly, disregards and fails to acknowledge several variables that should be taken into account over this topic. As a service man who has first hand experience at the abysmal state of our militaries finances as it is to day I can say that chances must be made. But that doesn't mean cuts to the budget. Where it is right now is fine enough. But we need a better system and plan for spending it.
ararmer1919 says2014-04-02T18:34:20.4376051-05:00
Changes not chances.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-02T18:46:44.1491578-05:00
If anything, we need to refocus where the money is being spent, as its obvious all this money isn't going to the right places. Places like France and UK have highly advanced and coordinated armies, but we spend 660 billion more then them, and areas of are armed forces are a mess. If China can run its army on 40 billion then we can at least run ours on 200 billion. But 600 is excessive and stupid.
donald.keller says2014-04-02T18:53:14.8091282-05:00
It depends on context. We spend as much as the military needs to maintain it's current programs. What should be done is finding ways to lower costs (example= $1 for a soda instead of $15.) I support decreasing spending if we can, or keeping it the same if we can't.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-02T18:58:07.6987395-05:00
Keller, lowering costs is equivalent to cutting spending. And personally, some programs need to be dropped. For example, we spend billions on tanks and carriers that never see combat. Actually, a huge chunk of all the ships (which cost extreme amounts of money) we produce get retired without ever firing a shot. A lot of money goes to extremely wasteful places, and we are literally spending half the worlds money on a huge personnel that will never see combat. I think the main cutbacks need to be on the army, and we can actually increase the budget for the marines, navy, and air force.
ararmer1919 says2014-04-02T21:13:26.8019847-05:00
Jifpop. I like your idea of giving more money to the Marines, but I think the navy and airfield get enough already lol. And making a new plan as to where the money ogre is exactly what I'm all for. I would like to point out however that the budget will naturally decrease itself by at least half in the next few years. Without budget cuts. If you look at where the money was spent last year in the budget you will see that almost 300 billions, around half the budget, was spent on combat operations and maintenance i.e. Afghanistan and left overs from Iraq. As these two wars have either ended or are on the verge of ending it is safe to say that unless we get into another war here soon then over the next few years we will see the defense budget reduced almost in half on its own.
ararmer1919 says2014-04-02T21:19:09.3590209-05:00
I'd also like to point out since a lot of people like to make the inaccurate claim that the US spends more on its military then anything else that this is absolutely false. Also discomfiting. Funding schools and fixing cities is and should be the individual State and it's budgets responsibility. The federal government and it's budget should have NOTHING to do with fixing cities and they shouldn't have anything to do with education either. Although they do to some amount. 107 billion.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-02T21:25:18.4862209-05:00
Aramer, I do agree with most of what your saying. I did watch something recently showing that a extreme amount of money is going to maintenance and operations within Afghanistan alone. I also agree that the navy is already the most powerful in the world. While are withdraw from Afghanistan will lower the budget greatly, I still feel 300 billion is excessive. I still think major cutbacks should be put in order, in a effort to get things down to 200 billion. I think by cutting down programs in the army and navy, and increasing programs within the marines and air force (which isn't as mighty as it used to be), we can get somewhere.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-02T21:28:45.8662761-05:00
As for your second statement, you are also right to a point. States are responsible for most things within their borders, but the federal budget influences how much taxes the states end up paying. None the less, this argument does not stand well. My city, Detroit, is being funded by the federal government, but that is a special case. Anyways, as soon as 20 billion comes out of the military budget (or from marijuana sales), my city comes out of poverty.
FearTheBeard1 says2014-04-03T11:58:31.0594940-05:00
Defense contractors are the dead weight on the defense budget in my opinion. While i agree the budget needs to be trimmed we do not need to make drastic cuts when sequestration is already doing its job. I will also note that a couple of months ago the Marine Corps was able to balance their budget and get on track with spending. With Iraq and Afgan coming to a full closed chapter you will see peace time spending will quell the excessive waste that has happened.
FearTheBeard1 says2014-04-03T12:07:04.6072918-05:00
Cut spending to Defense contractors similar to KBR, but please do not tap into retirement budgets for our service members. In my experiences with last couple of years i have watched Research and Development take a huge hit as well. That seems very counter productive when we can just trim the waste associated with Defense Contractors.
FearTheBeard1 says2014-04-03T12:09:47.6541993-05:00
Additionally, Civilian workers on base are far more expensive than pushing service members into those roles, IE: dinning halls, general maintenance and infrastructure, construction and training facilitators.

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