When do you think China come out of communism and become a democracy?

Posted by: triangle.128k

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In a few decades

11 votes

Not anytime soon, but how and whether it will turn democratic cannot be accurately predicted at the moment.

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China will collapse and die as a communist country.

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Isn't it not communist?

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One century from now

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6 centuries from now

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The year 200 ACE, (after common era)

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Thousands and thousands of years

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Very soon in a few years.

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triangle.128k says2015-04-16T20:30:07.4755256-05:00
@400spartans No, China is still a communist country.
PetersSmith says2015-04-16T20:31:19.1819647-05:00
When does ACE begin?
400spartans says2015-04-16T20:33:36.8850965-05:00
@triangle.128k Woops. Thought of the Republic of China.
triangle.128k says2015-04-16T20:34:24.9705298-05:00
I don't know, I just made a calender joke to represent a very long time.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-04-16T20:40:07.6510457-05:00
@triangle.128k: No, technically, China is just socialist - socialist with Chinese characteristics, as a government official would say. It's a far cry from the Maoist days before 1978.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-04-16T20:43:07.1111266-05:00
@UtherPenguin: Maybe the more interesting question would be, why did Ling Jihua's son cross the road? (Okay, perhaps that isn't the best thing to joke about, but...)
komododragon8 says2015-04-17T00:48:19.9217329-05:00
Triangle: just because a nation says their communist doesnt actually make them communist. By that logic North Korea, Democratic Kamuchea (Cambodia under Pol Pot), along with many others would all be democracies.
komododragon8 says2015-04-17T00:48:54.9571159-05:00
Currently China is considered a command economy.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-04-17T04:57:10.3237012-05:00
@Reeseroni: If by improvements you mean policies like rural village elections or inter-party elections, well, let's be honest, they aren't really significant. The Wukan incident, for example, revealed how corrupt village elections can be, and it isn't an isolated incident - rural elections are notorious because those who get elected will manipulate elections and stay in power. As for elections in the urban areas, they're better than the rural ones, but still they're relatively undeveloped. They only get to elect positions in very low parts of the government, and candidates usually go through a screening process (for regional people's congresses, for example, there must be a screening process if there are >2 candidates). TBH, I'm confident about Mr Xi's legal reforms to improve fairness and transparency, as well as his attempts to fight corruption, but not about democratisation at all (particularly considering there has been an increase in censorship and political arrests recently).
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-04-17T07:47:42.2407586-05:00
@imabench: While I agree there isn't likely to be a massive popular uprising for democracy (there have been, and will still be, small, isolated ones, such as when the Jasmine Revolution spread in China for a bit, just to be suppressed just after it started), I don't think economic development will keep anyone from protesting. Firstly, they've never kept anyone from protesting in the first place; the government was so annoyed by them that they have decided to stop releasing figures about what they called 'collective incidents' (their euphemistic umbrella term for anything from sit-in protests to violent riots). (For reference, there were 600,000 cases in 2003 and in 2010 they said the figured had risen tenfold since 2010). According to one of the issues of the Blue Book of Chinese Society (I believe it was 2013), the main causes of these incidents are environmental worries, labour disputes and, most importantly, forced evictions - that shows economic development has not guaranteed an increase in the quality of life of normal citizens. (Deng's policy of 'making a few rich first' has, inevitably, created inequality, because where has trickle-down worked?) Besides, China's economy is slowing quickly. Dongguan's factories, for example, are closing down because of soaring labour costs. A few years ago, they were still talking about maintaining an 8% GDP growth per year. Now they have had to lower it to 7.5%, and later 7%. They're eager to try out new things, like Shanghai's free trade zone, Shenzhen's Qianhai and relaxing currency control, as well as the general policy of 'emptying the cage and changing the bird' (it sounds funny in Chinese too, LOL) but we don't know how things will pan out for these new policies, nor whether they'll ensure a faster growth for Chinese economy.

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