When does a human life become valuable?

Posted by: Thegreatdebate98

Valuable: of considerable use, service, or importance

33 Total Votes


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17 votes

Third trimester

When the baby's eyes may open, bones are developed, and at 32 weeks has undeveloped lungs capable of breathing.
7 votes

Second Trimester

When the fetus develops a heartbeat, with functioning organs, nerves, and muscles
6 votes


They were in the process of becoming human, but not fully until birth when they have a purpose and personhood.
3 votes
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Thegreatdebate98 says2015-06-17T12:02:59.1442677-05:00
I apologize, I'll change the description for conception
PetersSmith says2015-06-17T12:36:42.9558021-05:00
Thegreatdebate98: You can't.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-17T14:34:40.4688535-05:00
@Sophia13 It's cells are splitting, it's alive.
reece says2015-06-17T17:37:04.8943764-05:00
The universe is singular. A value of "one" thing is valuable as long as it has potential to complexify.
cludwig says2015-06-17T20:32:40.9870139-05:00
Sorry, human life never becomes valuable. Our only valuable contribution to this Earth occurs when our nutrients return to the dirt when we die and become rotting corpses. Human Abortion is a gift of mercy to Nature.
triangle.128k says2015-06-17T20:45:17.1491552-05:00
@cludwig Nihilist
cludwig says2015-06-17T23:05:23.5892144-05:00
Yes triangle.128k, I certainly have my Nihilistic moments.
eagleoftheeast says2015-06-17T23:24:45.2031527-05:00
Even before concession, like the parents decide to have a baby then decide not to then the would have baby lost what could have been life.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-18T08:59:12.0630768-05:00
"Gift of mercy to nature" is not nihilistic.
Sophia13 says2015-06-19T10:09:59.8429810-05:00
@eagleoftheeast: I STRONGLY doubt a woman would just decide to have unprotected sex on the premise that if the gets pregnant, she could just have an abortion afterwards. Abortion is a huge decision, and no doubt something women would most likely rather avoid having. Abortions are more necessary after a rape, for example.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-19T11:21:39.7856647-05:00
You understand morning after pills are abortion drugs right? People take them much more lightly, even in place of birth control pills (pills that serve only to stave off your own production of gametes). The vast majority of abortions aren't being performed in a medical center at all.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-19T11:22:36.0775477-05:00
Don't give me that bull about hard choices.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-19T12:08:11.2538526-05:00
"Only when a baby become statistically plausible to be able to survive on its own does it become valuable in my opinion." - imabench http://www.Tommys.Org/page.Aspx?Pid=383 All people have to do is not kill it and it'll have an 80-85% chance of living on its own. Is that statistics enough for you?
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-19T12:10:40.5955245-05:00
You know its a backwards world when a man (myself) has to be the one arguing to two women that the gift of motherhood is something of value and that they shouldnt be aborting their children.
Midnight1131 says2015-06-19T13:05:18.3764459-05:00
At fetal viability.
dmussi12 says2015-06-19T14:08:47.5406041-05:00
It's backward that you think you have to decide for someone else what should be valuable to them.
mwedwards says2015-06-19T14:16:29.3554887-05:00
It's backwards that a woman is allowed to kill an unborn child in the name of privacy and personal choice.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-19T15:47:10.3461186-05:00
@mwedwards Yes!
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-06-19T15:48:59.9984664-05:00
@dmussi Sure ... That too. I really shouldnt have this feeling at all. I blame them for creating this feeling in me. It wouldn't exist where not needed.

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