Which alliance would win in a war: NATO or the SCO?

Posted by: PetersSmith

Turkey could go on either side, but I looked it up and NATO seems to want Turkey out, so I included them with the SCO.

  • North Atlantic Treaty Organization (Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom, the United States, Greece, Germany, Spain, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, and Croatia).

  • Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Moldova, Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, India, Iran, Mongolia, Pakistan, Belarus, Turkmenistan, Turkey, and Sri Lanka).

76% 22 votes
24% 7 votes
  • SCO only has China, Russia, and Iran. NATO has USA, France, Germany, United kingdom, and Spain. That's like when the Miami Heat's big 3 lost to the San Antonio Spurs because they played better team basketball.

  • Russia would be a problem, but its citizens currently dislike Putin. You could take advantage of that, topple the government and dissolve the SCO.

  • Our navy has a laser weapons. We also have a lot of nukes, which have a lot more uses than just blowing buildings up. If we use nukes as EMPs, then the ionized air would interfere our enemies communications and their ability to commit cyber warfare. US for the win, (and allies).

  • Nukes aside, in a modern war the West Will win again, the West is far more modernized and progressive these days that even if Russia, China, and Iran conscripted every man that they could they would be brutalized as they had during WW2 (with the exception of Iran, but religious radicalism doesn't inspire much intelligence). No matter what it will be brutal for both sides, but NATO if united would triumph.

  • US alone could destroy the whole world with lasers and shortwave machines.

  • Wishful thinking maybe, but I don't care, still voting for the SCO.

  • On the NATO side, the US is the only country with proper cyberwarfare systems and EMPs. On this side, China, Russia and India have EMPs, and China and Russia have the most powerful cyber-systems. Thus, this goes to SCO.

  • It would be hard to say but Russia would handle Europe while the rest (China/India/...) went for the US.

  • India+China=too many people to kill.

  • NATO is a collapsing from inside alliance collapsing European powers Britain Italy France Spain Germany compose NATO also collapsing North American power composes NATO sorry NATO doesnt have the motivation of Eurasian alliancem,which has younger military powers like China India or others !

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PetersSmith says2015-04-30T23:41:32.2325354-05:00
Heavy hitters for NATO: USA, France, UK, and Germany. Heavy hitters for the SCO: China, Russia, India, and Iran.
PetersSmith says2015-05-01T01:28:23.4156538-05:00
Gary511: I recommend that you look at the possible future members for the SCO on its Wikipedia page. Where India even recently petitioned for membership.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-05-01T01:28:36.8953131-05:00
I'm not even sure if India will actually be our ally in a war. They're not really in the SCO (just an observer state), plus there are border conflicts.
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-05-01T01:29:45.1917774-05:00
I posted that comment before reading Peters'. If India wants to join, then that's a good sign they'll be on our side anyway. :P
Death23 says2015-05-01T02:56:24.9863159-05:00
SCO is not an alliance.
biggest_pro_going says2015-05-01T04:52:17.4979742-05:00
It would depend what countries helped each alliance like North Korea, Israel, Japan, the rest of the middle east and Brazil.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-05-01T07:33:14.2909617-05:00
Japan is a united states ally.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-05-01T09:15:31.4940804-05:00
"SCO is not an alliance." Things NATO has sat back and watched on and left the US to deal with alone could be viewed as a non-alliance as well. NATO can barely be called an alliance due to how ineffective they are.
biggest_pro_going says2015-05-01T09:18:38.5028403-05:00
Thank you for that information Mathgeekjoe
mishapqueen says2015-05-01T11:21:15.7028603-05:00
I'd love to say NATO, but SCO has Iran with it's nukes, China's military, India's technology, and Russia's brute force. Europe just isn't as strong as it used to be.
58539672 says2015-05-01T16:00:02.5887709-05:00
SCO members include China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Russia. Afghanistan, India, Iran, Mongolia, and Pakistan are only observer states (the US applied for observer status but was denied). They have no obligation to assist the SCO in any way until they become full members. And Turkey has been a member of NATO since 1952.
PetersSmith says2015-05-01T16:32:04.7698802-05:00
58539672: I recommend that you look at the possible future members for the SCO on its Wikipedia page. Where India even recently petitioned for membership.
58539672 says2015-05-01T19:37:35.2175001-05:00
@PetersSmith Petitioned does mean anything. India is fully capable of withdrawing any request to join the SCO at any time. The process would already have been finished by now, but was delayed on India's side of the argument due to tension between India and China, India and Pakistan, and the Ukrainian conflict. In fact India in the last couple of months has been reaching out to the US a lot more than usual. Until they are given full membership, India is under no ablation to assist the SCO in any way and should not be counted as an SCO asset. In other words, don't count your chickens before they hatch.
lannan13 says2015-05-26T17:50:55.1554194-05:00
Is the war nuclear?

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