Which does the economy benefit from: Private Businesses or Government Programs?

Posted by: Haroush

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Private Businesses

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MechVarg says2015-07-19T09:27:45.6336143-05:00
None of the above
tajshar2k says2015-07-19T09:49:36.0975731-05:00
Both.
Haroush says2015-07-19T10:10:09.7518465-05:00
Hello I put up both! Darn Taj..
MakeSensePeopleDont says2015-07-19T13:39:57.6767431-05:00
@Haroush You need to update the question with details. You need to understand that the American economy is in the midst of an identity crisis right now. The U.S. economy is balancing directly between socialism and capitalism. You should really define which side of the spectrum you wish the question to be geared toward. More practically, we have no economy at the moment. The government is making MASSIVE cash grabs thinking only of their legacies and getting their name on big bills and having no concern for the effects on the population. Great example is the healthcare industry. As a private industry it grew to become 1/6 of the U.S. economy, the crowning jewel of medical care, the medical system everyone internationally sought a place in for major procedures and even birthing (talking Canadians, not Mexican anchor babies). The government made a grab for it and stole it from the private market, assuming control of that 1/6 of the nation's economy. This was quickly followed by some of the largest healthcare companies selling for Billions while thousands of workers lost their jobs (Humana Care was just purchased a few weeks ago by Aetna as well for $38.4 Billion which will drop thousands more employees onto unemployment within the next 3 years), and on queue starting in the first year of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act corruption set in with millions of dollars being fraudulently distributed to a small handful of individuals who were supposed to be the ones keeping everyone honest. I could keep going but ill stop there to keep this short. Bottom line here is, with how corrupt our government is at this point, we are severely hurting the population while simultaneously allowing government to spend without boundaries driving the nation into DEEP debt which is going to destroy the backbone of the U.S. Sad part is, the people doing this to us way up there *Points straight up* in the their Washington, DC ivory towers are the ONLY ones that will walk out of this profiting. So none of us will benefit unless we wake the heck up and stop this insanity; unless we stop allowing them to determine what we are going to bicker between each other about next and start banding together as Americans, not white or black, not man or woman, not haves and have nots, but Americans, and put an end to all of this nonsense.
Haroush says2015-07-19T17:48:03.3272597-05:00
While I agree for the most part of what you are saying, I believe it is a little worse than what you said it is MSPD. Technically, we have already become a socialist nation since before Barrack Obama. What we are transitioning into since (I would say) the Carter era maybe even before that is Communism. You may think "you are nuts.." but there has been so many societal changes given power to certain lobbyist groups and other ins and outs which has slowly restricted our 1st amendment rights more and more to the point now it seems the government is about pull the rug from right underneath our feet. And when I say this, I'm not just talking about our 1st amendment rights, I am talking about our second amendment rights and many other constitutional amendments. If you think the ACA is bad, just wait. There is plenty more to come. Sad enough to say, I don't think it matters anymore who gets in office to be honest with you. I believe we are just about doomed. Perhaps, I am being a little like a hypochondriac, but if you pay attention to significant changes that have been made by each president, it doesn't seem like things are going well at all. It almost seems to me there is a vacuum being created sucking all the life out of our economy and constitution. I'll leave it at that for right now. You ought to watch IOUSA and some other videos about how our economy got to where it is at today. Not saying you haven't but just for refreshment.
TBR says2015-07-19T21:53:11.0707940-05:00
Are you discounting military spending?
Haroush says2015-07-26T05:30:51.0346103-05:00
Military spending is something we need. If we aren't staying up to date with our technological defenses and sheer numbers of troops, sailors, marines, and etc. then we will be screwed. This was supposed to be one of the government's liabilities to us. The government wasn't meant to babysit our lives and give us money all of the time for no work at all.
Haroush says2015-07-26T05:34:22.3366103-05:00
Also, I should have the right to opt out of social security benefits if I wanted to. Really payroll tax is unconstitutional as it was made constitutional by the supreme court. Though who is to decide to put laws into place; is it the supreme court or is it congress?
TBR says2015-07-26T09:11:48.5892163-05:00
@Haroush., DonaldTrump, you both seem to misunderstand some fundamentals, and want use the argument that it is because of government fundamentals. @Haroush - Look at what the SCOTUS is. You seem to be off on that one. DonaldTrump, if you think government spending "makes no profit" you are either just that naive or.... Can you think of any reason for any government contractors, or the vast array of other profitable companies to laugh at your suggestion?
Haroush says2015-07-26T11:00:41.0746875-05:00
Taxing people to death is not government fundamentals. If you call a flush, air, gas, water, food, and all other taxes as being fair then why is it the government has the right to spend our money the way they want, but we don't. As far as SCOTUS goes, I am very well aware of what they are there for. They are there to decide if something is constitutional or not, the problem is political corruption is a big part of SCOTUS. They have helped to further erode our constitutional amendments away one by one.
Haroush says2015-07-26T11:02:00.4444147-05:00
Either way whatever law is to be put in place is to be voted in not sworn in by SCOTUS.
TBR says2015-07-26T11:21:45.3712144-05:00
Show me a law that we did not vote on? Show me a law that the SCOTUS passed?

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