70 Total Votes

Holocaust deniers

A group of people who dont think the holocaust happened ( usually anti Semites)
44 votes

Fundamentalist christians

A fringe group of Christians who are not only biblical literalists but say the most insane conspiracy theories. Mostly about how science is a conspiracy against them or Satan put scientific evidence on earth to disprove god.
22 votes

Alien abductees

This is a sub community within the ufo community that claims they have been abducted by aliens.
2 votes

Truthers ( or conspiracy therorists)

A group of people who think everything that happens is a government conspiracy. Mostly things like bombings attacks and assassinations but sometimes it can go a bit farther than that.
2 votes
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rings48 says2014-07-24T10:34:25.1796380-05:00
I voted by who I ignore the most :)
Preston says2014-07-24T10:56:36.1504331-05:00
Preston says2014-07-24T11:01:38.8742546-05:00
Tin Foil Hat Group or TFHG
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T12:18:11.0877647-05:00
Surprised no one has picked truthers yet.
reece says2014-07-24T12:20:22.5826934-05:00
@leonitus2464 some conspiracy's have been known to be right in the past.
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T12:24:49.3126386-05:00
Truther conspiracy theories are not the same as real ones trust me on that one.
reece says2014-07-24T12:26:08.8781528-05:00
It's hard to trust people online;)
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T13:10:21.7091678-05:00
I know lol . But ive known many truthers i can back up there crazy.
reece says2014-07-24T13:32:35.9204331-05:00
@leonitus2464 Yes, But i would think their are some truthers who have beliefs that are in fact true unlike Fundamentalist Christians that don't have falsifiable evidence for their claims.
Preston says2014-07-24T13:34:23.7072980-05:00
Ya those crazy... Wait a second! :p
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T13:42:27.3789992-05:00
True at least they make falsifiable claims but even if you debunk them they like Christian fundamentalists deny it.
Preston says2014-07-24T13:43:08.2673855-05:00
We so do not falsify things!
reece says2014-07-24T13:43:39.2820759-05:00
@leonitus2464 you have just made a friend :D
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T13:49:31.5857007-05:00
'Falsifiability. Share this page on your website: Falsifiability, as defined by the philosopher, Karl Popper, defines the inherent testability of any scientific hypothesis.' this is what i meant i didnt say your liars i said that you make claim that can be tested and investigated.
Preston says2014-07-24T13:49:40.9611204-05:00
I so upset, very mad, not actually...
reece says2014-07-24T13:50:32.1115208-05:00
@leonitus2464 Depends who you talk to and for Christians it doesn't matter because they wouldn't just give up their faith like that.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T13:50:51.5341632-05:00
That's the problem Preston.
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T13:53:24.5416367-05:00
And really its only JFK assassination, 9/11, Roswell truthers who show this kind of behavior.
Preston says2014-07-24T13:54:24.4544685-05:00
@immortal, what can I say? Ive always been a problem child :P
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T13:54:32.5195134-05:00
Faith isnt anything to be proud of its basically making a virtue out of ignorance.
reece says2014-07-24T13:55:06.7920543-05:00
Ladies and gentlemen i give you the most rational person on DDO...Leonitus2464
Preston says2014-07-24T13:55:21.0345804-05:00
Yea except I have experience to back my faith
Preston says2014-07-24T13:55:51.0172038-05:00
@reece *Preston applauds*
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T13:58:29.7850476-05:00
Faith fāTH/Submit noun 1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something. "this restores one's faith in politicians" synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More antonyms: mistrust 2. Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. Synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination, (religious) persuasion, (religious) belief, ideology, creed, teaching, doctrine More a system of religious belief. Plural noun: faiths "the Christian faith" a strongly held belief or theory. "the faith that life will expand until it fills the universe" Origin Middle English: from Old French feid, from Latin fides . Translate faith to Use over time for: faith what kind of expiriance. Did god just show up to you in person did you see an angel. Reece thanks
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T13:58:40.1357057-05:00
One should be proud of their capacity to be willfully ignorant. It requires such a tremendous effort. ;) But in all honesty, whatever hope people choose to carry for an afterlife of eternal praise to the sky dictator, is their business. I simply ask they keep it out of my secular government, tyvm.
Preston says2014-07-24T13:59:41.4115272-05:00
Let me see if I can find my reply to reece... One sec
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T14:01:23.7360518-05:00
I was asking you and thanking him for the compliment.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:07:18.1856233-05:00
I cant find it, but basically I was about to die due to starvation, prayed and against all logic was found, and yes I survived.
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:10:17.2885473-05:00
@Preston, This is against Christians, its against the ones who believe science is the devils creation. I was told once the world was round and Newton's soul was sold to the devil for his "science".
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:10:35.0038529-05:00
*isnt against Christians, oops
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T14:10:49.0909238-05:00
That doesnt prove anything thousand of children die a day of starvation are the prayers they make answered. What about all of the people who pray not to die of cancer and die anyway what about them. Prayer not proof
Preston says2014-07-24T14:11:00.2919392-05:00
Ya I know thats why I was teasing, they just wanted to know if god or some other deity appeared to me to make me believe.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:12:33.1449248-05:00
Thousands of children aren't me, you wanted to know why I believed, because I was saved after praying, if I had waited 10 minutes+ or not have been rescued 10minutes + then I wouldn't have been saved, I would have starved because the motor boat that caught up and saved me couldn't have reached me.
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T14:13:03.2379035-05:00
Also there are people who get lost in the woods and die i bet lots of them prayed to get rescued.
reece says2014-07-24T14:13:33.2978740-05:00
Preston believes in a god via "supernatural" courses.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:13:44.2960150-05:00
My beliefs aren't centered around other people getting saved, if they were that would be a different story, but I was saved.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:14:51.1428720-05:00
Yea, the guy who saved me was headed up stream and felt the urge to go down, even though they hadn't seen me pass so it was impractical and illogical to do so, I had been missing for over a day.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:15:15.6663864-05:00
I also learned that summer sunscreen is important...
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T14:15:27.4133370-05:00
So, your faith is entirely based upon your belief that god positively reinforced your prayers with the reward of survival. So it's not so much faith as it is payment for services rendered.
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T14:16:32.8093754-05:00
What are you serious it only matters if you get saved supposedly by praying but if it others they dont matter thats not how it work if you say it work it should work for everybody,
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:17:56.5235435-05:00
@leonitus, I have almost died twice-ish (ignoring the repeated electrocutions that could have all killed me) and then through a very odd series of events I ended up being set on a path someone told me I was going to take a year earlier who said I was "special". Belief often comes from the impossible, not logic. I believe in a god/entity because it the only rational way to explain a .01% chance thing happening. I have never been religious or churchly. I never prayed, but the series events that happened to me have no other rational explanation than being a miracle
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T14:19:30.2813465-05:00
If something has a .01 % chance of happening, it will eventually happen. Perhaps you are just the lucky recipient of probability.
reece says2014-07-24T14:22:29.4082503-05:00
The_Immortal_Emris is another logical person.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T14:23:11.1191933-05:00
Thank you, Reece.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:23:38.3885177-05:00
Found the post "Three years ago I was canoeing (from the source of the Mississippi to the bottom) with 14 other friends and two guides, the guides were supposed to be in the front and back but I drifted behind and got stuck and lost my paddle, when I freed myself no one was around, I drifted for about a day or so and decided, I'm going to die (no food and all), ill say my dues, so I prayed. 5 minutes later a boat came from behind, it was a guide, he was headed up river (I had passed them) to find me, but he said and I quote "I was headed upstream when I had a really strong feeling to go down, I told my self it was illogical and even ignored it at first, but here you are". It also turns out that the motor boat wouldn't have been able to reach me in 20 feet because it got too shallow. That night I had the best Powdered milk of my life. But there is no logical reason as to why I was found, none what so ever, but here I am, alive and fed." look because I was saved in a situation where my survival was out of my hands , I have an instilled sense of faith that there is a god, he knows I exist, and he cares about me. That's how I got into Mormonism.
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T14:23:57.1868792-05:00
Thats called a coincidence you dont even know for sure that it was god. God never said he did it to you in person did he. Did he even send a messenger to tell you not some guy who you just think is a messenger but an angel or somthing similar. If you look at this from a skeptical point of view it seems like you assumed it was god.
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:24:59.8527215-05:00
@The_Immortal_Emris Basically there was a mechanical failure during the test saved over a years worth of work by my engineering team from failing the test (the .01% chance) and then while repairs were happening and odd urge I felt accidentally led me to the wrong place to correct the problem and save the project before it failed. That project's success was a life defining moment for me, so the chances that by random I had an urge to be in the right place at the right time to save something from failing that I had no idea about leads to an extremely low probability.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:26:20.8812425-05:00
So what your saying is my belief is illogical because as immortal just pointed out its highly unlikely that I would be saved and I was, thus it was a coincidence? I cant be swayed on this guys, its the foundation of me, I am who I am now because of it.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T14:27:53.5470245-05:00
I'd love to read the local news article on your rescue if you have it handy.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:29:15.9010082-05:00
Before this I was a terrible person, BTW I was lazy, had attempted to stab someone (yea tons of fun dealing with those consiquences), and couldn't hold a job. After this experience I changed into someone who works his hardest, hates violence, and holds an awesome position as an intern at an investment firm. Look guys, even if its all crap its making people better, thats why religion is good, yes radicals exist! But radicals exist on both sides.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:30:55.5579577-05:00
I was at a boyscout ranch, on a high adventure, you think they would report losing a kid to the news? I can tell you in detail who, what, and where I was though if you need to know.
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:31:33.5112545-05:00
"The man who experiences the impossible can not believe that others will believe him. He has entered a different reality where the impossible is possible."
Preston says2014-07-24T14:32:11.1547784-05:00
^im going to agree with that!
reece says2014-07-24T14:32:48.0161950-05:00
@Preston just because it's a foundation of you doesn't mean you can't grow in your beliefs.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T14:33:00.0903628-05:00
There are far fewer radical secularists than radical religious individuals.
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:33:48.0282409-05:00
For example: One of the greatest speakers in the world, who redefined how individuals help themselves believed he had met the devil. He is the most read on and highest consider author on self development yet he believed something horrible irrational.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:34:38.8116179-05:00
Immortal I wont argue that because its true, but attacking religion as a whole because of your view on radicalisms isn't ok, thats why im glad this poll is specificly stating radicalist things
Preston says2014-07-24T14:35:53.8802615-05:00
@ reece, oh I did, after that I began serving at homeless shelters, it made me feel good to help. Then I got a job as a YMCA CHild care specialist, decided I didn't like little kids, left the Y and now work here!
Preston says2014-07-24T14:36:17.9359241-05:00
But all along the way from that point on I recognized god in my life!
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T14:37:00.2477443-05:00
I didnt want to lump any christians together i know many smart moderate Christians.( im an atheist by the way)
reece says2014-07-24T14:37:14.0970041-05:00
@Preston you can help people with our religion believe it or not
reece says2014-07-24T14:37:30.0561110-05:00
Out i mean
Preston says2014-07-24T14:39:19.6794191-05:00
@reece I totally do, I teach classes at my high school (Programming), and most of them hate religion, Its funny to see how they hate me because im Mormon (ive been asked "how many moms do you have" so many times), but I help them and serve then to the point where ive made so many friends!
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T14:39:29.1020003-05:00
Just out of curiosity what if you didn't pray but still got saved?
Preston says2014-07-24T14:39:53.0952617-05:00
Why is it that the majority of religious people avoid computer science?
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:41:09.8019368-05:00
Religion is a romantic logic. Computer science is a classical logic. People typically are only good with one or the other.
reece says2014-07-24T14:41:34.8092177-05:00
@Preston because it's a form of science.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T14:42:20.8301027-05:00
Here's my story. When I was a teen, I was a neo-conservative. I believed in the GOP and their message, I believed the terrorists were out to get us all. I believed Iraq was a justified war. Then I started to take Theology courses at my Catholic high school, and I learned about the 1000 years of crusades. I learned about the purge of eastern Europe and how the Christians tortured, pillaged and murdered their religion into prominence. I quickly became an atheist conservative. For years I touted a libertarian philosophy, laissez faire economic policy and a hard stance against the nations of the middle-east. Then I went to college. I majored first in history, hoping to go pre-law, but quickly decided economics was far more interesting to me. I learned about the various economic systems in our nation, while I worked as the economic correspondent for the University paper. It was there I discovered MY faith. Faith in marijuana. I jest, of course, as this is something of a parody, but I started smoking pot during my Jr. Year. I realized I had been lied to by the authority figures about this as well as so many other things, in economics and philosophy. I started studying geo-political climates, and received my post-graduate Master's in regional economic development. This is why I reject organized religion, it is nothing but a caste system organized as a method of control. This is why I reject American oligarchical "capitalism", as it contributes to the destabilization of our society. This is why I am a Progressive social Democrat, with no use for religion or religious fervor. Knowledge, and education. Your chance happenings may have had a profound impact on your desire to reject that which has no basis in evidence, but a robust education might rekindle that need.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:42:26.0562032-05:00
@leo, I probably wouldn't have changed, I would have kept rebelling against society, and eventually gotten myself hurt, but because I was and I changed im here with you guys,i get to discuss this with you!
rings48 says2014-07-24T14:42:42.0465107-05:00
@reece, not necessarily a form of science but computer science is a step by step logic. Religion relies on a leap of faith
Preston says2014-07-24T14:44:25.6325027-05:00
@immortal, I know what you mean, the crucades, all the mass killings, ect. Thats why my beliefs center Mormonism, a pacifistic religion that was the target of killings like the crucades. Look up Hans mill, or executive order 44
reece says2014-07-24T14:44:36.0397789-05:00
Rings48 i was joking.
Preston says2014-07-24T14:47:24.4697398-05:00
:p not many people like it at all!
Preston says2014-07-24T14:57:38.5051312-05:00
So do you guys atleast understand why im religious?
reece says2014-07-24T14:59:12.1657300-05:00
@Preston because you have faith not facts.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:00:05.9690953-05:00
:p yup, but I don't have blind faith, such as, my momma told me that god is true, and momma don't lie!
reece says2014-07-24T15:02:52.3801859-05:00
"blind faith" and "faith" are irrelevant when lined up with actual fact...
Preston says2014-07-24T15:02:55.9370543-05:00
But I love fact too, the big bang happened, evolution is a real thing (pinkey finger), ect. Only difference is the big man.
reece says2014-07-24T15:03:49.5708857-05:00
They are scientific theory's...
Preston says2014-07-24T15:04:18.6498449-05:00
What facts are you referring to?
reece says2014-07-24T15:05:54.3732857-05:00
@Prestonat least their falsifiable unlike your invisible,untouchable dragon in your garage
Preston says2014-07-24T15:07:58.4996080-05:00
:p what? Im just asking what facts you think I don't believe?
reece says2014-07-24T15:08:42.0765107-05:00
The observational facts/theory's like gravity.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:09:37.1299694-05:00
Ha, Mormonism isn't a pacifist religion. The very executive order you mention was penned as a result of violent clashes between Mormon militias and Utah militias.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:11:45.5204384-05:00
Utah malitias, Missouri is who it was, and read how that started, Mormons believe in self defense (generaly), after being raided over and over the Mormon militia was formed, the first time they fought hundreds of Mormons died and very few Missourians (?) died.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:12:39.2006098-05:00
Yes, I apologize, it was Misso militias. Still, proves Mormons aren't pacifists.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:13:03.9261343-05:00
Belief in self-defense is not pacifism.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:13:22.2089827-05:00
Pac·i·fism ˈpasəˌfizəm/Submit noun the belief that any violence, including war, is unjustifiable under any circumstances, and that all disputes should be settled by peaceful means.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:14:09.2460023-05:00
Hundreds of Mormons did not die at that battle. 4 people did.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:14:21.0398291-05:00
You realize that was started because of raids on the Mormon community, all of which occurred because Mormons opposed slavery. The militia was made in self defence and failed on the first battle.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:15:03.6382321-05:00 Patten was shot and mortally wounded. Ebenezer Robinson recalled that Patten had been "brave to a fault, so much so that he was styled and called 'Captain Fearnought'".[7] Although it was not immediately realized, Gideon Carter had also been killed, making a total of three Mormon fatalities and one militiaman fatality.
reece says2014-07-24T15:15:29.7903512-05:00
The_Immortal_Emris can admit when he is mistaken.Can you see the Preston?
reece says2014-07-24T15:15:46.2098134-05:00
Preston says2014-07-24T15:15:55.1720393-05:00
I still consider it to be pacifistic, self defence is an exception.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:17:12.5385532-05:00
I was referring to the deaths due to raids during the malitias existence, sorry im working right now pulling average gains from etfs, thats my mistake
Preston says2014-07-24T15:19:26.4781028-05:00
"Seventy-eight-year-old Thomas McBride surrendered his musket to militiaman Jacob Rogers, who then shot McBride and hacked his body apart with a corn knife. Several other bodies were mutilated or clothing stolen, while many women were assaulted. Houses were robbed, wagons, tents and clothing were stolen, and horses and livestock were driven off, leaving the surviving women and children destitute." all after the Missouri militia met with the community and declared a truce.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:21:39.9018115-05:00
None of that happened at the battle of crooked river, Preston, which is what I've been talking about,.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:22:19.8130361-05:00
Thats fine I misunderstood, but you see why a militia was formed?
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:25:45.1129841-05:00
Yes, I do. I didn't say they weren't justified in defending themselves. I simply stated Mormonism isn't a pacifist religion at all.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:29:20.5453528-05:00
Thats fine, I consider it pacifism, even if not by definition, I personally am a pacifist though :p
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:29:47.5104455-05:00
Also, if a group of Islamic individuals moved into your neighborhood, set up tents in your front lawn and told you they were going to inherit your land because the second coming of Christ was near, you would likely form a mob to toss them out. Http://en.Wikipedia.Org/wiki/Mormon_War_(1838) Was a massacre justified? Never, but were tensions running high because of Mormon infringements of the law, yes.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:30:37.5718082-05:00
The great thing about reality and truth is they exist regardless of your willingness to believe in them.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:32:51.3128995-05:00
:p yea, but its like if the Muslims were protesting computers (Mormons protested slavery), something that at the time is essential, although I have many Muslim friends!
reece says2014-07-24T15:33:08.4423095-05:00
Preston says2014-07-24T15:33:29.7835199-05:00
Haha reece :p
reece says2014-07-24T15:34:24.6965759-05:00
Haha i posted it on the wrong thread at first :P
Preston says2014-07-24T15:35:19.6876334-05:00
Did you know when the Mormons moved into Missouri they founded Nauvoo in a swamp, after years it slowly became farmable. And in Utah they picked a super arid area and irrigation caused it to become fertile too.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:36:38.9905210-05:00
According to Utah history, the Mormons had no doctrine against slavery. Http://historytogo.Utah.Gov/utah_chapters/pioneers_and_cowboys/slaveryinutah.Html The Mormon church had no official doctrine for or against slaveholding, and leaders were ambivalent. In 1836 Joseph Smith wrote that masters should treat slaves humanely and that slaves owed their owners obedience. During his presidential campaign in 1844, however, he came out for abolition. Brigham Young tacitly supported slaveholding, declaring that although Utah was not suited for slavery the practice was ordained by God. In 1851 Apostle Orson Hyde said the church would not interfere in relations between master and slave.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:40:46.1395112-05:00
Ya there's a lot of things brigam young stated that has been put under the category of "not accepted by church", Nah but smith was killed after his movement to abolish it, he was killed while in prison after being arrested for disturbing the peace, in relation to his run for presidency.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:41:38.9933276-05:00
Smith had no issue with slavery until he believed it would help him win the election.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:42:16.9488575-05:00
Like most men who are only concerned with amassing power, he waited until it was convenient for him to take a populist stance on abolition.
Preston says2014-07-24T15:45:35.9306840-05:00
If you read about his history after he began running he was imprisoned falsely, after release he declared it, and at the time it wasn't a popular movement, thats like if someone 20 years ago ran on the basis of gay marriage, while now its accepted back then it was like "NOPE".
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:51:01.7475292-05:00
Actually, if you read the history, you would know abolitionism reached prominence as a populist opinion in the northern states in the late 1700s, a full 40 years prior to his run.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:52:11.7433831-05:00
Actually, if you read the history, you would know abolitionism reached prominence as a populist opinion in the northern states in the late 1700s, a full 40 years prior to his run. Slavery was banned in the Province of Georgia soon after its founding in 1733. The colony’s founder, James Edward Oglethorpe, fended off repeated attempts by South Carolina merchants and land speculators to introduce slavery to the colony. In 1739, he wrote to the Georgia Trustees urging them to hold firm: “If we allow slaves we act against the very principles by which we associated together, which was to relieve the distresses. Whereas, now we should occasion the misery of thousands in Africa, by setting men upon using arts to buy and bring into perpetual slavery the poor people who now live there free.” The struggle between Georgia and South Carolina led to the first debates in Parliament over the issue of slavery, occurring between 1740 and 1742
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:53:51.1602712-05:00
Beginning with Vermont in 1777, most states north of the Ohio River and the Mason-Dixon Line abolished slavery. Slavery in Massachusetts was abolished by the judiciary; since the constitution (also adopted in 1780) declared all men to have rights, slavery was unenforceable. Emancipation in many free states was gradual; those who were slaves often remained slaves, but children of slaves were born free. Transition arrangements were made, partially to prevent abuses. New York and Pennsylvania, for example, still listed a few slaves in their 1840 census returns, and a small number of black slaves (12) were held in New Jersey in 1860 as "perpetual apprentices". Let's see, when did Smith run for President? On January 29, 1844, the Prophet Joseph Smith formally decided to run for the office of president of the United States. So it is literally like someone running on the platform of abolitionism five years ago. Like Barack Obama.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:54:49.3315525-05:00
So it is literally like someone running on the platform of same sex marital equality* five years ago. Like Barack Obama.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T15:55:23.3076991-05:00
In other words, he, like any other politician, just told the people what he knew they wanted to hear.
Preston says2014-07-24T16:03:04.5360491-05:00
Eh, still, he was running out of Missouri thats like if Obama was running out of texas.
Preston says2014-07-24T16:05:28.8856250-05:00
And don't say georga was fending off slavery, they had slaves; the penal colony of the Province of Georgia under James Oglethorpe, is known to have been the only British colony to have banned slavery before legalizing it (1735) with the help of George Whitfield. So it was re-legalised
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T16:05:53.5965002-05:00
Not at all. The Missouri compromise was only a compromise because the state was torn between abolition and slavery.
Preston says2014-07-24T16:06:48.5557210-05:00
Gosh slavery, another reason why religion can be abused and give people the mentality of elitism.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T16:07:50.5519493-05:00
Clearly James Edward Oglethorpe was forced to fend off repeated attempts by South Carolina merchants and land speculators to introduce slavery to the colony. As the history states.
Preston says2014-07-24T16:07:57.7247908-05:00
I hate the poll picture, every time I see it I want to puke
Haroush says2014-07-24T17:52:12.0501130-05:00
Reece, Hitler was no fundamentalist Christian.. He might of thought he was, but in his heart he wasn't. Which makes him not a fundamentalist Christian..
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T17:54:38.3129002-05:00
Hitler was christian he stated it in speeches propaganda and his book mien kampf.
Haroush says2014-07-24T17:55:53.3942563-05:00
I'll tell you what the problem is with you Reece.. You live in the past, not the future.. If you wanted to live in the future then why hold on to the past? Furthermore, the original Christians were the ones who got killed, which were fundamentalist. In fact, these Christians weren't even Christians, they were Messianic Jews. Get your history updated.
Haroush says2014-07-24T17:57:06.7849555-05:00
He may have thought he was Christian, but like you said,"It was propaganda."
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T17:59:20.6518705-05:00
Thats the no true Scotsman fallacy.
Haroush says2014-07-24T18:00:12.4272748-05:00
Honestly, Reece you must be really desperate to try to find anyway to make believers in faith look bad..
Haroush says2014-07-24T18:02:07.0226710-05:00
There is no fallacy there.. It is obvious Hitler lied about what ever he could in order to gain the public's support.. So no fallacy.. Mr. Judge..
reece says2014-07-24T19:18:24.6460498-05:00
@Haroush another claim that isn't falsifiable.Evidence shows that he was a christian, etc. Christianity and it's scripture are open to interpretation, just because he didn't think of Christianity like you doesn't mean he lied.
Haroush says2014-07-24T19:27:08.1080251-05:00
You are wrong there Reece, Christianity does have limitations... If it didn't then atheist would be able to Christians too.
reece says2014-07-24T19:39:50.7286906-05:00
@Haroush I didn't say it didn't have limitations... Can you get your "faith" right first before you talk
lannan13 says2014-07-25T07:11:54.7533414-05:00
*pst* It's called the Phelps.
Formerland1 says2014-07-27T19:25:25.2438304-05:00
They are all very crazy .
SLOTHFOODLOVER88 says2016-06-09T16:57:04.0175284Z
I was ubductid by aleins once then i got really anguree y and ate them

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