A fringe group of Christians who are not only biblical literalists but say the most insane conspiracy theories. Mostly about how science is a conspiracy against them or Satan put scientific evidence on earth to disprove god.
'Falsifiability. Share this page on your website: Falsifiability, as defined by the philosopher, Karl Popper, defines the inherent testability of any scientific hypothesis.' this is what i meant i didnt say your liars i said that you make claim that can be tested and investigated.
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
Synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination, (religious) persuasion, (religious) belief, ideology, creed, teaching, doctrine More
a system of religious belief.
Plural noun: faiths
"the Christian faith"
a strongly held belief or theory.
"the faith that life will expand until it fills the universe"
Middle English: from Old French feid, from Latin fides .
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what kind of expiriance. Did god just show up to you in person did you see an angel. Reece thanks
One should be proud of their capacity to be willfully ignorant. It requires such a tremendous effort. ;)
But in all honesty, whatever hope people choose to carry for an afterlife of eternal praise to the sky dictator, is their business. I simply ask they keep it out of my secular government, tyvm.
That doesnt prove anything thousand of children die a day of starvation are the prayers they make answered. What about all of the people who pray not to die of cancer and die anyway what about them. Prayer not proof
Thousands of children aren't me, you wanted to know why I believed, because I was saved after praying, if I had waited 10 minutes+ or not have been rescued 10minutes + then I wouldn't have been saved, I would have starved because the motor boat that caught up and saved me couldn't have reached me.
@leonitus, I have almost died twice-ish (ignoring the repeated electrocutions that could have all killed me) and then through a very odd series of events I ended up being set on a path someone told me I was going to take a year earlier who said I was "special".
Belief often comes from the impossible, not logic. I believe in a god/entity because it the only rational way to explain a .01% chance thing happening.
I have never been religious or churchly. I never prayed, but the series events that happened to me have no other rational explanation than being a miracle
Found the post "Three years ago I was canoeing (from the source of the Mississippi to the bottom) with 14 other friends and two guides, the guides were supposed to be in the front and back but I drifted behind and got stuck and lost my paddle, when I freed myself no one was around, I drifted for about a day or so and decided, I'm going to die (no food and all), ill say my dues, so I prayed. 5 minutes later a boat came from behind, it was a guide, he was headed up river (I had passed them) to find me, but he said and I quote "I was headed upstream when I had a really strong feeling to go down, I told my self it was illogical and even ignored it at first, but here you are". It also turns out that the motor boat wouldn't have been able to reach me in 20 feet because it got too shallow. That night I had the best Powdered milk of my life. But there is no logical reason as to why I was found, none what so ever, but here I am, alive and fed."
look because I was saved in a situation where my survival was out of my hands , I have an instilled sense of faith that there is a god, he knows I exist, and he cares about me. That's how I got into Mormonism.
Thats called a coincidence you dont even know for sure that it was god. God never said he did it to you in person did he. Did he even send a messenger to tell you not some guy who you just think is a messenger but an angel or somthing similar. If you look at this from a skeptical point of view it seems like you assumed it was god.
@The_Immortal_Emris Basically there was a mechanical failure during the test saved over a years worth of work by my engineering team from failing the test (the .01% chance) and then while repairs were happening and odd urge I felt accidentally led me to the wrong place to correct the problem and save the project before it failed. That project's success was a life defining moment for me, so the chances that by random I had an urge to be in the right place at the right time to save something from failing that I had no idea about leads to an extremely low probability.
So what your saying is my belief is illogical because as immortal just pointed out its highly unlikely that I would be saved and I was, thus it was a coincidence? I cant be swayed on this guys, its the foundation of me, I am who I am now because of it.
Before this I was a terrible person, BTW I was lazy, had attempted to stab someone (yea tons of fun dealing with those consiquences), and couldn't hold a job. After this experience I changed into someone who works his hardest, hates violence, and holds an awesome position as an intern at an investment firm. Look guys, even if its all crap its making people better, thats why religion is good, yes radicals exist! But radicals exist on both sides.
For example: One of the greatest speakers in the world, who redefined how individuals help themselves believed he had met the devil. He is the most read on and highest consider author on self development yet he believed something horrible irrational.
@ reece, oh I did, after that I began serving at homeless shelters, it made me feel good to help. Then I got a job as a YMCA CHild care specialist, decided I didn't like little kids, left the Y and now work here!
@reece I totally do, I teach classes at my high school (Programming), and most of them hate religion, Its funny to see how they hate me because im Mormon (ive been asked "how many moms do you have" so many times), but I help them and serve then to the point where ive made so many friends!
Here's my story.
When I was a teen, I was a neo-conservative. I believed in the GOP and their message, I believed the terrorists were out to get us all. I believed Iraq was a justified war.
Then I started to take Theology courses at my Catholic high school, and I learned about the 1000 years of crusades. I learned about the purge of eastern Europe and how the Christians tortured, pillaged and murdered their religion into prominence.
I quickly became an atheist conservative. For years I touted a libertarian philosophy, laissez faire economic policy and a hard stance against the nations of the middle-east.
Then I went to college. I majored first in history, hoping to go pre-law, but quickly decided economics was far more interesting to me.
I learned about the various economic systems in our nation, while I worked as the economic correspondent for the University paper. It was there I discovered MY faith. Faith in marijuana.
I jest, of course, as this is something of a parody, but I started smoking pot during my Jr. Year.
I realized I had been lied to by the authority figures about this as well as so many other things, in economics and philosophy.
I started studying geo-political climates, and received my post-graduate Master's in regional economic development.
This is why I reject organized religion, it is nothing but a caste system organized as a method of control.
This is why I reject American oligarchical "capitalism", as it contributes to the destabilization of our society.
This is why I am a Progressive social Democrat, with no use for religion or religious fervor. Knowledge, and education.
Your chance happenings may have had a profound impact on your desire to reject that which has no basis in evidence, but a robust education might rekindle that need.
@leo, I probably wouldn't have changed, I would have kept rebelling against society, and eventually gotten myself hurt, but because I was and I changed im here with you guys,i get to discuss this with you!
@immortal, I know what you mean, the crucades, all the mass killings, ect. Thats why my beliefs center Mormonism, a pacifistic religion that was the target of killings like the crucades. Look up Hans mill, or executive order 44
Utah malitias, Missouri is who it was, and read how that started, Mormons believe in self defense (generaly), after being raided over and over the Mormon militia was formed, the first time they fought hundreds of Mormons died and very few Missourians (?) died.
Patten was shot and mortally wounded. Ebenezer Robinson recalled that Patten had been "brave to a fault, so much so that he was styled and called 'Captain Fearnought'". Although it was not immediately realized, Gideon Carter had also been killed, making a total of three Mormon fatalities and one militiaman fatality.
"Seventy-eight-year-old Thomas McBride surrendered his musket to militiaman Jacob Rogers, who then shot McBride and hacked his body apart with a corn knife. Several other bodies were mutilated or clothing stolen, while many women were assaulted. Houses were robbed, wagons, tents and clothing were stolen, and horses and livestock were driven off, leaving the surviving women and children destitute." all after the Missouri militia met with the community and declared a truce.
Also, if a group of Islamic individuals moved into your neighborhood, set up tents in your front lawn and told you they were going to inherit your land because the second coming of Christ was near, you would likely form a mob to toss them out.
Was a massacre justified? Never, but were tensions running high because of Mormon infringements of the law, yes.
Did you know when the Mormons moved into Missouri they founded Nauvoo in a swamp, after years it slowly became farmable. And in Utah they picked a super arid area and irrigation caused it to become fertile too.
According to Utah history, the Mormons had no doctrine against slavery.
The Mormon church had no official doctrine for or against slaveholding, and leaders were ambivalent. In 1836 Joseph Smith wrote that masters should treat slaves humanely and that slaves owed their owners obedience. During his presidential campaign in 1844, however, he came out for abolition. Brigham Young tacitly supported slaveholding, declaring that although Utah was not suited for slavery the practice was ordained by God. In 1851 Apostle Orson Hyde said the church would not interfere in relations between master and slave.
Ya there's a lot of things brigam young stated that has been put under the category of "not accepted by church", Nah but smith was killed after his movement to abolish it, he was killed while in prison after being arrested for disturbing the peace, in relation to his run for presidency.
If you read about his history after he began running he was imprisoned falsely, after release he declared it, and at the time it wasn't a popular movement, thats like if someone 20 years ago ran on the basis of gay marriage, while now its accepted back then it was like "NOPE".
Actually, if you read the history, you would know abolitionism reached prominence as a populist opinion in the northern states in the late 1700s, a full 40 years prior to his run.
Slavery was banned in the Province of Georgia soon after its founding in 1733. The colony’s founder, James Edward Oglethorpe, fended off repeated attempts by South Carolina merchants and land speculators to introduce slavery to the colony. In 1739, he wrote to the Georgia Trustees urging them to hold firm: “If we allow slaves we act against the very principles by which we associated together, which was to relieve the distresses. Whereas, now we should occasion the misery of thousands in Africa, by setting men upon using arts to buy and bring into perpetual slavery the poor people who now live there free.” The struggle between Georgia and South Carolina led to the first debates in Parliament over the issue of slavery, occurring between 1740 and 1742
Beginning with Vermont in 1777, most states north of the Ohio River and the Mason-Dixon Line abolished slavery. Slavery in Massachusetts was abolished by the judiciary; since the constitution (also adopted in 1780) declared all men to have rights, slavery was unenforceable. Emancipation in many free states was gradual; those who were slaves often remained slaves, but children of slaves were born free. Transition arrangements were made, partially to prevent abuses. New York and Pennsylvania, for example, still listed a few slaves in their 1840 census returns, and a small number of black slaves (12) were held in New Jersey in 1860 as "perpetual apprentices".
Let's see, when did Smith run for President?
On January 29, 1844, the Prophet Joseph Smith formally decided to run for the office of president of the United States.
So it is literally like someone running on the platform of abolitionism five years ago. Like Barack Obama.
And don't say georga was fending off slavery, they had slaves; the penal colony of the Province of Georgia under James Oglethorpe, is known to have been the only British colony to have banned slavery before legalizing it (1735) with the help of George Whitfield. So it was re-legalised
I'll tell you what the problem is with you Reece.. You live in the past, not the future.. If you wanted to live in the future then why hold on to the past? Furthermore, the original Christians were the ones who got killed, which were fundamentalist. In fact, these Christians weren't even Christians, they were Messianic Jews. Get your history updated.
@Haroush another claim that isn't falsifiable.Evidence shows that he was a christian, etc. Christianity and it's scripture are open to interpretation, just because he didn't think of Christianity like you doesn't mean he lied.