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reece says2016-11-05T11:48:06.1810089Z
The Abrahamic religions have the same god.
Rjupudi18 says2016-11-05T13:38:16.4113819Z
Actually we don't.
reece says2016-11-05T18:29:37.2928057Z
@Rjupudi18 Actually you guys do. Do you you know why they're known as the A̲b̲r̲a̲h̲a̲m̲ic religions?
Rjupudi18 says2016-11-05T18:55:04.1038113Z
They're known as Abrahamic religions because they claim to have come from the patriarch Abraham not because we worship the same god.
Mastur_Debatur says2016-11-05T21:48:50.8850308Z
The god of Abraham is the same god of all three major monotheistic religions.
Rjupudi18 says2016-11-05T21:58:28.0419305Z
Muslims claim they worship the God of Abraham. However if you compare Allah of the Quran and Yahweh of the Torah/Bible, you'l notice Allah is a very different concept. They're not the same. If I brought a unicorn and said this is the god Abraham worshiped, would Muslims start worshiping a unicorn?
reece says2016-11-06T01:54:14.9633676Z
@Rjupudi18 the concept of God is contradictory even in its individual religions.
reece says2016-11-06T01:56:29.8574323Z
@Rjupudi18 By the way, there is a unicorn in the bible.
Rjupudi18 says2016-11-06T03:16:28.4863659Z
@reece Oh okay, thanks for letting me know. That totally is relevant to this poll.
reece says2016-11-06T04:51:00.9097540Z
It was just a side note.
kikiki says2016-12-03T20:06:29.8903985Z
Isn't Allah the Arab word for Yahweh?
Rjupudi18 says2016-12-03T20:53:31.6832868Z
No Allah is the Islamic god that Muslims worship. Yahweh is the God that Jews and Christians worship.
Overnight says2016-12-03T21:37:06.2218506Z
Wait, but Jews don't believe in the Trinity though. So, could one say that Allah, Jesus, and Yahweh are different people?
Rjupudi18 says2016-12-03T21:57:23.8252557Z
Jews don't believe in the Trinity but both Christians and Jews worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Both Christians and Jews believe in the Torah and the other 34 books of the Old Testament as authoritative Scripture. Jesus was a Jewish Messiah. However, He was rejected and crucified. To say Jews rejected Jesus is a false statement. Many Jews DID accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Lord. These were the early Christians. But many others rejected Him and continued to live as Jews. In a sense, Christianity is "complete Judaism" in that the prophecies of the Jewish Old Testament were fulfilled in the Christian New Testament.
Overnight says2016-12-03T22:34:03.1429538Z
That doesn't convince me still that Muslims don't worship the same god (of Abraham). To say that we worship the same God is not the same as insisting that we have an agreed and shared understanding of God, which (the latter) is what I think you are portraying, and which I certainly agree.
Rjupudi18 says2016-12-04T00:30:41.4952107Z
Christians and Muslims don't worship the same god because we have different understandings of "God". The only similarities between the Christian God and the Muslim god is the claim that they're omnipotent and creator of the universe. There is only one God and therefore only one truth. For example, if I said my god was a pink unicorn from Mars who drank chocolate milk, was all-powerful and was the god of Abraham, would we be worshiping the same god? Of course not! This pink unicorn god does not exist and therefore I would be worshiping a false god. In the same way, God is either Allah or He is Yahweh. He cannot be both. Let me give you a few examples as to why Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Yahweh's love is unconditional. He loves all people. Allah's love is conditional. He loves only the "believers". Yahweh commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac; Allah-Ishmael. Yahweh calls Jews His chosen people while Allah calls them apes (Surah 7:166). Yahweh loves Israel. Allah and Muslims hate Israel. These are only a few examples. Allah and Yahweh are not two names of the same god. One is a false god and the other is the true and living God.
Overnight says2016-12-04T00:33:19.6490245Z
@Rjupudi18, you literally just proved my previous point.
Rjupudi18 says2016-12-04T00:36:55.5544085Z
You said we worship the same God. I proved you wrong. We don;t worship the same god.
Overnight says2016-12-08T23:13:20.1998039Z
@Rjupudi, you didn't PROVE anything beside the fact that there are clearly differences in the idea of God.
Rjupudi18 says2016-12-09T02:57:25.9868172Z
Overnight let me give you an example. Let's say I believed in a god that had six legs, was from Mars, and drank orange juice and I made a claim that my god was the same as your Allah, would you agree with me? Since we have different conceptions of God is exactly why we don't worship the same god. If you claim Christians and Muslims worship the same god, I'll assume you worship Jesus becuase in our eyes, He is the God of Abrahm, Isaac and Jacob.
Overnight says2016-12-11T16:32:18.0315553Z
@Rjupudi18, I'll answer those questions in our debate.

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