@Texas14 I Don't think Sam Harris is necessarily one. I can't really blame him. It's normal for public figures to be consumed by their own bubble. But yeah, I think it's the large portion of the community.
@reece, I largely agree. When Sam Harris and other prominent new atheists criticize Islam it's very detailed, intelligent and often nuanced. But if you read tweets from Sam Harris's followers, it can get pretty crazy.
I have a quandary with the "New Atheist" term. Is it a term to describe hostile atheists? I mean, that's just weird. I've never really considered myself to be hostile, but I guess I would be a "new" atheist. But, what is a "new" atheist? Would modern Christians be considered New Christians or Muslims New Muslims? Does it describe the new wave of atheists who act like d*bags over the internet? What about the ones who act respectively? Would just the d*bags be considered "New Atheists" or would they get lumped together?
I guess it's kinda like feminist/feminazi/SJW. People use those to describe the pretentious, female supremacists/ultra-progressive tyrants, no matter how aware they are that there are perfectly reasonable people who claim those titles.
@Black-Jesus, the best definition of New Atheist I've heard is "an atheist who is willing to stand up and advocate for atheism". Granted, it's a very broad definition, but it's better than some people on the progressive side defining new atheists as neoconservatives who happen to be atheists.
@reece Yes, I expect its followers to get their sh*t together, and realize that this religion is only causing more harm than good for them and everybody around them. Creating reform is not an impossible thing. Christianity has a New Testement, in contrast to their Old Testement which is very violent. Anyways, this doesn't add up because Progressives are quick to blame Christians and Christianity, but not Islam.
@tajshar2k I'm sure you can make void your own points on what you expect. Anyway, you sound surprised about progressives. The reason progressives get pissed off about Christianity is because neocons use it as a political tool to hinder change and oppress people.
@Reece Neo-Cons are all about bombing other countries.What does this have anything to do with Christianity? They are spreading the word of the Bible, they just want to bomb and nation build. You just admitted that progressives get mad at an ideology, which is basically refutes your first original comment.
@tajshar2k I'm sure you're being intellectually dishonest.1. Neocons try to provoke the "other" mentality to get into office and pass legislation, etc. The majority of Christians and people on the right in general tend to be susceptible to that sort of influence. 2. How does it refute the first thing I said to you?
@reece, neoconservatives were by and large in favor of the Iraq War. The only new athiest I can think of that was in favor of the Iraq War was Christopher Hitchens. Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennet, Penn Jilette, etc. were not in favor of it.
@Reece 1. I really don't get how this has anything to do with Christianity itself. What do you expect in a Christian majority country? Of course Right wing christians will support them. Also Neo-Con's are not popular in America anymore, so we don't have to worry about that. 2. You said that blaming an ideology only goes so far, but progressives blame Christianity.
@tajshar2k 1. No, I mean the majority of Christians are republican. Neocons aren't popular in america anymore?? Are you kidding me! Look at Obama and the two presumptive nominees! Don't try to sweep it under the rug 2. Progressives blame people who use it as a tool for their own political gain.