Who do you find to be more "reasonable": liberals or conservatives?

Posted by: PetersSmith

Reasonable as in less stubborn in their beliefs and more willing to listen and possibly accept other beliefs. Or would it be ideologies? I'm not putting plain libertarianism because they borrow from both sides and thus are technically classified as "more reasonable".

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Libertarian Conservatives

Libertarian conservatism is a conservative political philosophy and ideology that combines right-libertarian politics and conservative values. Libertarian conservatives' first value is negative liberty to achieve socially and culturally conservative...  ends. They reject liberal social engineering. Frank Meyer, a co-founder of National Review has called this combination fusionism. In political science, the term is used to refer to ideologies that combine the advocacy of economic principles, such as fiscal discipline, respect for contracts, defense of private property and free markets and the classical conservative stress on self-help and freedom of choice under a laissez-faire capitalist society with social tenets such as the belief in natural inequality, the importance of religion, and the value of traditional morality through a framework of limited, constitutional, representative government.Freedom & Virtue: The Conservative Libertarian Debate, edited by George W. Carey, contains essays which describe "the tension between liberty and morality" as "the main fault line dividing the two philosophies.   more
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Liberals

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections... , civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property.Liberalism first became a distinct political movement during the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among philosophers and economists in the Western world. Liberalism rejected the notions, common at the time, of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings. The 17th century philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition. Locke argued that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and according to the social contract, governments must not violate these rights. Liberals opposed traditional conservatism and sought to replace absolutism in government with representative democracy and the rule of law   more
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Conservatives

Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions. A person who follows the philosophies of conservatism is referred to as a traditionalist or conservative. Some conservatives seek to preserve thing... s as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were". The first established use of the term in a political context originated with François-René de Chateaubriand in 1818, during the period of Bourbon restoration that sought to roll back the policies of the French Revolution. The term, historically associated with right-wing politics, has since been used to describe a wide range of views. There is no single set of policies that are universally regarded as conservative, because the meaning of conservatism depends on what is considered traditional in a given place and time. Thus conservatives from different parts of the world—each upholding their respective traditions—may disagree on a wide range of issues   more
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Neither/None

Neither side will ever give in to the other. Instead they will be arguing over the internet for eternity, throwing up information from Wikipedia at their opponent(s) until they feel satisfied with themselves. Yet, this is why people have opinions ... and they stick with it. It's what they believe in and no one else should try to manipulate them. It's their belief, let them have it and engage in debates for good fun   more
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Libertarian Liberals

Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates stateless societies often defined as self-governed voluntary institutions, but that several authors have defined as more specific institutions based on non-hierarchical free associations. Anarchism ... holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, or harmful. While anti-statism is central, some argue that anarchism entails opposing authority or hierarchical organisation in the conduct of human relations, including, but not limited to, the state system. As a subtle and anti-dogmatic philosophy, anarchism draws on many currents of thought and strategy. Anarchism does not offer a fixed body of doctrine from a single particular world view, instead fluxing and flowing as a philosophy. There are many types and traditions of anarchism, not all of which are mutually exclusive. Anarchist schools of thought can differ fundamentally, supporting anything from extreme individualism to complete collectivism. Strains of anarchism have often been divided into the categories of social and individualist anarchism or similar dual classifications   more
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Authoritarian Liberals

Communism is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterized by the absence of social classes, money, and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to ... establish this social order. The movement to develop communism, in its Marxist–Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the states which followed this ideology and those who didn't.Communism was first developed into a scientific theory by German philosopher and social scientist Karl Marx, and the collective understanding of this scientific approach is today commonly referred to as Marxism. According to Marxism, capitalism is a historically necessary stage of society, which has led to the concentration of social classes into two major groups: proletariat - who must work to survive, and make up a majority of society - and bourgeoisie - a minority who derive profit from private ownership of the means of production   more
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Authoritarian Conservatives

Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy in the immediate aftermath of World War I, combining more typically right-wi... ng positions with elements of left-wing politics, in opposition to liberalism, Marxism, and traditional conservatism. Although fascism is usually placed on the far right on the traditional left–right spectrum, several self-described fascists have said that the description is inadequate.Fascists sought to unify their nation through an authoritarian state that promoted the mass mobilization of the national community and were characterized by having leadership that initiated a revolutionary political movement aiming to reorganize the nation along principles according to fascist ideology. Fascist movements shared certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism   more
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PetersSmith says2014-08-07T17:34:43.2663073-05:00
Remember, reasonable as in less stubborn in their beliefs, more willing to listen and possibly accept other beliefs, and they don't shove their beliefs down other people's throats. You know, that kind of thing.
sambob says2014-08-07T17:50:06.7059185-05:00
In that case definitely not liberals. I would be one but my reasons are explained in my previous comment.
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T18:51:27.8319726-05:00
Max.Wallace: I'm doubting any choice you choose.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T18:52:50.9347707-05:00
You voted the same as I. Pete.
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T18:53:16.1916564-05:00
Max.Wallace: I didn't vote, actually.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:09:26.6239182-05:00
Your opinion is therefore invalid, or you are to ashamed to present it, same thing.
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T19:10:33.8573239-05:00
Max.Wallace: Of course, my mistake.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:11:20.7353239-05:00
Well calculated, or an honest mistake?
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T19:13:37.2271374-05:00
Max.Wallace: Neither.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:16:16.4485156-05:00
What then. Don't be such a secret, unless you are conniving, please. Maybe you have no ideology? No morals and no remorse, let the cold hard facts rule? Is that you?
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T19:20:43.8932012-05:00
Max.Wallace: If you want my opinion I feel that none of the ideologies included are "reasonable".
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:30:39.8008522-05:00
Please describe your own, Agent Smith. Then we can have a debate.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:33:03.0063558-05:00
At the age of 18 you consider your knowledge vast? Hahahahahahahahahaha! Are you on you parents Oamacare?
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T19:41:54.8121095-05:00
Max.Wallace: I'm not interested in debating with you. I just think it's contradictory to associate your choice with "this is a stupid question" because that automatically means you're conceited and stubborn.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:43:37.6954285-05:00
I wrote that? Where? Somebody from the regime decided it was to risque. Thanks for remembering it, but it is in the trashcan now, I would prefer it stood, so all knew where I stood.
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T19:45:47.2494525-05:00
Max.Wallace: Right.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:46:30.9614931-05:00
I am a little sorry for the comment, because it was the perfect poll to prove my point, but once the truth is revealed, the world of animals will unite against it, congratulations, good question, it just made me a little afraid, squeamish, must have been that root canal I had. Sorry, Agent Smith.
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T19:47:51.3987805-05:00
Max.Wallace: And rightly so.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:52:16.8639805-05:00
Love your pic Mr. Smith. Are you the wolf or the child? Honestly?
PetersSmith says2014-08-07T19:52:53.3404464-05:00
Max.Wallace: To you I guess I'm a child.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:55:27.2771541-05:00
Not in my mind, deceiver. You actually agreed with my statement of this is a stupid question, you won't even pick the best answer, which tells me you believe this is a stupid poll, or you wrote it and are manipulating it.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T19:56:22.2200019-05:00
You are Agent Smith, certainly a wolf.
Max.Wallace says2014-08-07T20:00:12.2917029-05:00
Ah well, you did write it, does that mean you can't vote? Who wrote that dumb ass rule?
patrick967 says2014-08-07T21:27:00.5635760-05:00
@sambob I'm not a feminist, nor a "fat is beautiful" person. Those people are stupid, and just because they're liberal doesn't mean all liberals are like that. That's like saying all Muslims are terrorists.
yetifivepecks says2014-08-07T22:15:16.2232256-05:00
It depends heavily on the individual. I have met people from all parts of the spectrum. I am around conservatives all the time. I definitely prefer to talk politics with Libertarians or Liberals, but I am not sure who is most reasonable in general.

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