Would the founding fathers support or oppose Cliven Bundy and his supporters?

Posted by: ChrisF

Look up the Whiskey Rebellion in 1794, incredibly similar to this.

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  • In 1794, there was a rebellion in Pennsylvania, by farmers who refused to pay the federal tax on whiskey, citing the same reasons as the minutemen of the American Revolution. When the farmers started forming militias and attacked a tax collector's home, George Washington himself led 13,000 soldiers to put down the rebellion. Funny thing is, they heard the soldiers were coming, and the rebels went home before the army even got there.

    Posted by: ChrisF
  • ^ Whiskey Rebellion

  • The founding fathers would never support lawless domestic terrorism.

  • Hmm a subsidy taking, non paying, armed resistance, that doesn't believe America exist, and believes "the Negro " was perhaps happier in slavery...nah

  • Hello Whiskey Rebellion..

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discomfiting says2014-04-24T14:49:21.0623759-05:00
I saw a post about the rebellion on tumblr. ;)
SweetTea says2014-04-24T16:31:07.8047271-05:00
This situation ISN'T the Whiskey Rebellion. The latter was a result of taxes placed on whiskey -- similar to taxes on tea sparking the Boston Tea Party. Bundy's ancestors sold their land to the federal gov't. They were paid for it. That ended his claim to it. He owes a bill -- grazing fees. If he was buying grain, he'd own a feed & grain company. Bundy hasn't paid these fees, in 20+ years. He should be jailed & his herd taken. Do you honestly think a feed & grain company would let him go that long without paying? I don't! No company would allow anyone to do such! While other ranchers have been forced to sell their herds (at a loss) due to drought, Bundy has maintained his by stealing from the gov't! There is nothing heroic or patriotic about his actions.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-24T16:54:01.7591271-05:00
Taxes on land and cattle. Connection made
Jifpop09 says2014-04-24T20:30:36.2095797-05:00
Cliven Bundy just got caught saying racist remarks
ChrisF says2014-04-24T20:31:50.4360201-05:00
Read about that earlier, all of the politicians supporting him suddenly got real quiet...
Jifpop09 says2014-04-24T20:32:45.7692201-05:00
Lol, here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbnRnhrNFEY
SweetTea says2014-04-25T03:19:39.5149131-05:00
Jifpop ... It isn't taxes that he owes! He owes "grazing fees". Instead of buying feed, he "rented" federal land to graze them on. That's a debt, but not a tax.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-25T04:53:13.7329054-05:00
I know, but your getting way to literal. What he did isn't so much different then what the founding fathers did in actuality.
SweetTea says2014-04-25T06:28:37.1488869-05:00
Jifpop ... Our Founding Fathers were opposing higher taxes and/or additional taxes. Bundy is avoiding to pay a debt that he chose 20+ years ago to have. That is not the same thing. Our Founding Fathers had no say over taxation. Bundy created his debt, when he went into a contractual agreement with the government. There is nothing heroic or patriotic about a bum who refuses to pay their debts!
ChrisF says2014-04-25T13:53:02.8791966-05:00
SweetTea, that's actually a common misconception. The Revolution wasn't about taxes, it was about being taxed without having any representation in the British government, plus anger at the quartering of soldiers in private homes, the way the justice system was set up, etc. In reality, people back in England were paying even higher taxes than the colonists were.
SweetTea says2014-04-25T16:09:50.5692667-05:00
ChrisF ... I wasn't commenting on the American Revolution. I know that was fought over taxation without representation. Jifpop is comparing Bundy to the taxes that sparked the Whiskey Rebellion. It isn't the same!
discomfiting says2014-04-25T16:12:24.4554830-05:00
Laughing so hard. Sweet tea is being sour.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-25T16:12:26.1958643-05:00
I'm saying its the same idiot defiance which leads to innocents dying. I'll accept persecution. My representation's not worth dying over, or should anyone else feel different. If so, then they have little to live for.
ischreib45 says2014-04-26T11:38:13.3016690-05:00
Two Words. Whiskey. Rebellion.
Jifpop09 says2014-04-26T23:01:16.3377620-05:00
Laubarum, I hope your being sarcastic -_-
vivia says2014-06-24T08:42:23.7354706-05:00
One of the reasons we went to war was because the govt was forcing colonists to buy only Great Britain products, even to the point of banning colonists from weaving cloth. They would have supported the rancher over the govt.

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